GSF 109 · May 29, 2020

Hi all,
I am looking to install new seatbelts in my s3 SW on the front Three seats and second row seats.
Ideally I would put inertia reel seatbelts on all six seats if possible.
Has anyone done this already and where would be the best place to purchase the parts?
Many thanks in advance,

Mitch

TheMegaMan · May 29, 2020

I've bought some from Craddocks for my SWB (hence front-only), but I've not got as far as fitting them yet (still a few weeks before I get around to doing that), so do please let me know how you get on and what gotchas I need to look out for!

kermit_rr · May 29, 2020

I fitted a driver and passenger 3 point inertia reel belts to my 2A years ago, no issue fitting at all. Came with a bracket that bolted nicely in to the roof internal seams. Never bothered with a middle belt

Gord Wedman · May 30, 2020

kermitt_rr
would you be able to post a couple photos of the upper mount? Thanks

GSF 109 · May 30, 2020

Thanks all for the replies. As mine is a 5 door station wagon, the upper mount for the front seats is different from a SWB or van body as I have a ‘b’ pillar. From what I can tell, there is a lower bracket that can be bought easily enough for the inertia reel, but the upper mount is a mystery! My b pillars have had a hole drilled through them At the top and a shackle type affair on the inside. It looks really crude and not what I would expect to see as there are no crush tubes to prevent distortion under load. Surely that is not a Landrover original fitment?

I have found a write up for the second row seats on a 110 which looks very similar to series, so maybe the parts fit? Does anyone know if the parts are interchangeable?

GSF 109 · May 30, 2020

Gord Wedman said:
kermitt_rr
would you be able to post a couple photos of the upper mount? Thanks

Yes that photo would be really helpful! Thanks

Rodeo Joe · May 30, 2020

GSF 109 said:
Thanks all for the replies. As mine is a 5 door station wagon, the upper mount for the front seats is different from a SWB or van body as I have a ‘b’ pillar. From what I can tell, there is a lower bracket that can be bought easily enough for the inertia reel, but the upper mount is a mystery! My b pillars have had a hole drilled through them At the top and a shackle type affair on the inside. It looks really crude and not what I would expect to see as there are no crush tubes to prevent distortion under load. Surely that is not a Landrover original fitment? I have found a write up for the second row seats on a 110 which looks very similar to series, so maybe the parts fit? Does anyone know if the parts are interchangeable?

I'd imagine the defender bits would fit, the tub is the same size.

kermit_rr · May 30, 2020

This is the bracket
https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/seat-belt-bracket-r-h-adu710100.html

Gord Wedman · May 31, 2020

kermit_rr said:
This is the bracket
https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/seat-belt-bracket-r-h-adu710100.html

I don't see how that will work in our 5 door 109 wagon. There is no place where that will fit in to. A few months ago I had asked about fitting shoulder belts and got the same suggestion but as I say, there does not seem to be a gap anywhere that this would fit in to.

GSF 109 · May 31, 2020

It doesn’t fit, as I found the correct one at Rovers North. They seem to have a lot of good equipment and clear illustrations on how it is fitted. https://www.roversnorth.com/categor..._ii_iia_iii_seat_belt_front_109_station_wagon

Gord Wedman · May 31, 2020

Looking at the Rovers North kit I do not see installation instructions? Is that upper bracket supposed to go inside the door pillar? Please see photo

GSF 109 · May 31, 2020

I think it bolts to the side of the pillar. Looks that way to me.

TheMegaMan · May 31, 2020

Gord Wedman said:
Looking at the Rovers North kit I do not see installation instructions? Is that upper bracket supposed to go inside the door pillar? Please see photo
View attachment 211008

I don't know, but I'd guess it fits just behind the pillar, across the top front corner of the rear door. The step in the top edge of the bracket look like it's designed to fit over the tab where the top of the pillar bolts to the roof.

On an 88, the bracket fits in approximately the same position behind the pillar, with is pretty much where a rear door would be if there was one. It's just a slightly different shape so it doesn't interfere with the door aperture as much as the SWB version would.

But then I could be wrong!

Adam.

Rodeo Joe · Jun 1, 2020

TheMegaMan said:
I don't know, but I'd guess it fits just behind the pillar, across the top front corner of the rear door. The step in the top edge of the bracket look like it's designed to fit over the tab where the top of the pillar bolts to the roof.

On an 88, the bracket fits in approximately the same position behind the pillar, with is pretty much where a rear door would be if there was one. It's just a slightly different shape so it doesn't interfere with the door aperture as much as the SWB version would.

But then I could be wrong!

Adam.

No I think you're right, its the same part that goes on a truck cab so that it doesn't clash with the corner windows.

tobyd10 · Jun 1, 2020

kermit_rr said:
This is the bracket
https://www.johnrichardssurplus.co.uk/seat-belt-bracket-r-h-adu710100.html

This is what I used in my 2a Station wagon.
Top of the bracket bolts through where the roof meets the side under the spline wibdow and the narrow end through the c pillar.
The other end of the anchorage goes through the angled raised second row floor with a spreader plate.

GSF 109 · Jun 1, 2020

tobyd10 said:
This is what I used in my 2a Station wagon.
Top of the bracket bolts through where the roof meets the side under the spline wibdow and the narrow end through the c pillar.
The other end of the anchorage goes through the angled raised second row floor with a spreader plate.

Hi, I take it that this is for the second row seats only?
The bracket I was also looking for was for the front upper support at the ‘b’ pillar. What does your bracket look like?
Thanks

ivanhoe · Jun 2, 2020

I haven't been on here for ages, I have just taken a picture of the fitted bracket for you, I will attempt to upload it.

Gord Wedman · Jun 2, 2020

Thanks Ivanhoe for the photo. That clears it up nicely. I was guessing the bracket went there but there are no matching holes in the vertical part of the door pillar so was not certain. I guess you have to drill through both sides and put long bolts through?

ivanhoe · Jun 2, 2020

Gord Wedman said:
Thanks Ivanhoe for the photo. That clears it up nicely. I was guessing the bracket went there but there are no matching holes in the vertical part of the door pillar so was not certain. I guess you have to drill through both sides and put long bolts through?

You are correct, I did not fit these, my project Landy came to me like this. -

Gord Wedman · Jun 2, 2020

Thanks again. This is a big help. That kit from Rovers North is a bit expensive but probably worth while if you are going to drive your Series a lot.

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