On 2006-10-19, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works,
> mind. 6804 processor, IIRC.

So've I, along with a brace of beebs, a few C64s and a range of other
old geek gear, even a Mattel Aquarius with a four-colour pen plotter!
Must dig it all out sometime before the bat **** rots it all away.

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"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:27:52 +1300, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com>
> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >JD wrote:
> >
> >> And I would not be surprised to hear that there were a significant
number of
> >> industrial applications in current use running CP/M.
> >
> >There certainly are - I look after several.
>
> There are persistent rumours of a nuclear reactor run by a gaggle of 8
> commodore pets.

I heard that the London Underground is run by BBCs, izzatso?

Martin

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> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "The boys are dreaming wicked or of the bucking ranches of the night and
> the jollyrodgered sea." Dylan Thomas (1914 - 1953) Under milk wood


 

"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
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> On or around Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:53:59 +0100, Ian Rawlings
> <news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >On 2006-10-18, steve <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> If its proper embedded, there isn't ROOM for an OS.
> >>:)
> >>
> >> Steve, writing for 8 bitters still
> >
> >8 bitters? Nancy boy ;-) ISTR PIDs coming in four bits.
> >
> >One of my favourite brain-bending machines of yesteryear was a British
> >machine IIRC, known as the DAP. It used a one-bit processor, 1024 of
> >them in an array... At 10MHz it could render a high-res raytrace in 5
> >seconds that took a high-powered sparcstation of the day over 2 hours
> >to generate. That was without a floating-point unit as well, just
> >integer maths. Nice little machine, provided you could program FORTRAN.
>
> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works, mind.
6804
> processor, IIRC.
>

An' I've still got a TRS80 16k level 2 that still works!

Martin

> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
> drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
> flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)


 
Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-10-19, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
>> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works,
>> mind. 6804 processor, IIRC.
>
> So've I, along with a brace of beebs, a few C64s and a range of other
> old geek gear, even a Mattel Aquarius with a four-colour pen plotter!
> Must dig it all out sometime before the bat **** rots it all away.
>

I'll raise you a Kaypro II, a VIC20 and a Wang 2200T (and most other
members of the CS/2200 family).

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EMB
 
On 2006-10-19, EMB <embtwo@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll raise you a Kaypro II, a VIC20 and a Wang 2200T (and most other
> members of the CS/2200 family).

I think I have a vic 20 but you've trumped me with the Kaypro and the
Wang, although I used to have a Nascom some time ago, but I was a kid
at the time so pulled it apart and it vanished over the years!

How about table-top games of Astro Wars, Scramble and Munchman? ;-) I
can still wrap the score on Astro Wars.

My current junk of this type;

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Grandstand/Astro.htm
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Grandstand/Scramble.htm
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Grandstand/Munch.htm
http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Grandstand/MiniMunch.htm

There's a Frogger up there somewhere too, not to mention two Big Traks
and a trailer...

What am I doing sitting at my desk working.. I should be up in the loft.

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On 2006-10-19, Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:

> I heard that the London Underground is run by BBCs, izzatso?

Wot, using the "tube" interface?

Hehehe...

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On or around Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:53:44 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-10-19, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
>> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works,
>> mind. 6804 processor, IIRC.
>
>So've I, along with a brace of beebs, a few C64s and a range of other
>old geek gear, even a Mattel Aquarius with a four-colour pen plotter!
>Must dig it all out sometime before the bat **** rots it all away.

actually, I think it's a 6809.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; and
therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee"
John Donne (1571? - 1631) Devotions, XVII
 
On 2006-10-19, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

> actually, I think it's a 6809.

Motorola 6809E @ 0.89 MHz according to wikipedia;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_32/64

I've never actually fired mine up yet, it's item number 2.364x10^13 on
my todo list, one above "repair wing on landy".

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On or around Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:33:40 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-10-19, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
>> actually, I think it's a 6809.
>
>Motorola 6809E @ 0.89 MHz according to wikipedia;
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_32/64
>

well well.

One thing they did have was lovely joysticks, with erm... <counts on
fingers> 6 bit (I think) A-D on each axis. Programming wise, the axes went
from 0-63 each way, so that 0,0 was bottom left and 63,63 was top right.

Made for excellent control of flying games and the like. This is something
sadly lacking from more or less everything else - switched on-off joysticks
are nowhere near as good.
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If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink;
Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by;
Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)
 

"Ian Rawlings" <news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2006-10-19, Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > I heard that the London Underground is run by BBCs, izzatso?
>
> Wot, using the "tube" interface?
>
> Hehehe...
>
>
Now would probably be even funnier if I knew what a 'tube interface' was,
not being a computer techie. ;-)

Martin


 
On 2006-10-19, Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:

> Now would probably be even funnier if I knew what a 'tube interface' was,
> not being a computer techie. ;-)

Ah, sorry, the BBC computer has an interface on the bottom labelled
"tube", it was used mainly to connect a second processor, I wonder if
that's where the notion that the underground system was controlled by
them came from!

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
<martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:

>
>"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
>news:pkdej29jfvmfru0rdjj8lfrvetifsqvpig@4ax.com...
>> On or around Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:53:59 +0100, Ian Rawlings
>> <news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>> >On 2006-10-18, steve <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If its proper embedded, there isn't ROOM for an OS.
>> >>:)
>> >>
>> >> Steve, writing for 8 bitters still
>> >
>> >8 bitters? Nancy boy ;-) ISTR PIDs coming in four bits.
>> >
>> >One of my favourite brain-bending machines of yesteryear was a British
>> >machine IIRC, known as the DAP. It used a one-bit processor, 1024 of
>> >them in an array... At 10MHz it could render a high-res raytrace in 5
>> >seconds that took a high-powered sparcstation of the day over 2 hours
>> >to generate. That was without a floating-point unit as well, just
>> >integer maths. Nice little machine, provided you could program FORTRAN.
>>
>> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works, mind.
>6804
>> processor, IIRC.
>>
>
>An' I've still got a TRS80 16k level 2 that still works!
>
If were going for obscure i've got a tandy newbrain with a built in
screen :)
 

"Ian Rawlings" <news06@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2006-10-19, Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > Now would probably be even funnier if I knew what a 'tube interface'
was,
> > not being a computer techie. ;-)
>
> Ah, sorry, the BBC computer has an interface on the bottom labelled
> "tube", it was used mainly to connect a second processor, I wonder if
> that's where the notion that the underground system was controlled by
> them came from!
>
I think whoever told me was serious but you're probably right. I've still
got a Model B around somewhere, I'll have a look tomorrow and see if I can
figure out what that is though I'm pretty sure they said the 'BBC Master'.

Martin


 
On 2006-10-19, Tom Woods <news@NOPSAMtomwoods.co.uk> wrote:

> If were going for obscure i've got a tandy newbrain with a built in
> screen :)

Tandy? I thought it was Grundy?

"Grundy", sounds like a west country manufacturer ;-)

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"Tom Woods" <news@NOPSAMtomwoods.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:13:49 +0100, "Oily"
> <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Austin Shackles" <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote in message
> >news:pkdej29jfvmfru0rdjj8lfrvetifsqvpig@4ax.com...
> >> On or around Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:53:59 +0100, Ian Rawlings
> >> <news06@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:
> >>
> >> >On 2006-10-18, steve <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If its proper embedded, there isn't ROOM for an OS.
> >> >>:)
> >> >>
> >> >> Steve, writing for 8 bitters still
> >> >
> >> >8 bitters? Nancy boy ;-) ISTR PIDs coming in four bits.
> >> >
> >> >One of my favourite brain-bending machines of yesteryear was a British
> >> >machine IIRC, known as the DAP. It used a one-bit processor, 1024 of
> >> >them in an array... At 10MHz it could render a high-res raytrace in 5
> >> >seconds that took a high-powered sparcstation of the day over 2 hours
> >> >to generate. That was without a floating-point unit as well, just
> >> >integer maths. Nice little machine, provided you could program
FORTRAN.
> >>
> >> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works, mind.
> >6804
> >> processor, IIRC.
> >>
> >
> >An' I've still got a TRS80 16k level 2 that still works!
> >
> If were going for obscure i've got a tandy newbrain with a built in
> screen :)

Still got an Acorn Atom, a Sinclair ZX81(which I had given to me), a BBC
Model B and some bits of a Ferranti Advance left over (which has arrays of
tubular glass encased transistors, not chips). ;-)

Martin


 
On 2006-10-19, Oily <martinhill100@nospambtconnect.com> wrote:

> I think whoever told me was serious but you're probably right. I've still
> got a Model B around somewhere, I'll have a look tomorrow and see if I can
> figure out what that is though I'm pretty sure they said the 'BBC Master'.

All the BBCs apart from the model 'A' had the tube IIRC, but the beebs
were popular for many things involving external control as they had a
decent amount of external communication hardware. Nice little
machines, I'll get an econet up and running one of these days with my
beebs on it.

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Austin Shackles wrote:

> I've still got a Dragon 32, somewhere. dunno if it still works, mind. 6804
> processor, IIRC.
If it doesn't the guy who designed it is a personal acquaintance of mine....

Steve
 
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