*If it's in your hand. And they've not made a brilliant job of it - if it's in a holder you can only use it 'hands free'.
You can't touch it wherever it is. Guess that is where voice command works.
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TomToms and the like feel so old to use these days. Google Maps or Apple Maps is generally far superior. They also integrate with your phone book/contacts and other features such as location sharing or saved locations on the map.
Boguing, I have been off air this evening due to thunderstorms over here.
So I agree and withdraw the response.
But it gave me the time to fully think about it and realise why my rather knee jerk response was as it was.
The fact is that I hate the idea of anyone using a phone in a car, no matter what for.
The statistics show how dangerous they can be:
"According to the latest Reported Road Casualties Great Britain (2022), 22 people were killed and 674 injured in road traffic collisions where a driver using a mobile phone was considered to be a contributory factor.
Further analysis of the data shows that 4,188 injuries were recorded where there was a ‘distraction in vehicle’, where a mobile device could potentially have played a factor in the collision."
I even hate the idea of anyone using a touch screen, even when built into a car, for the simple reason that having to touch the screen involves taking one's eyes off the road, and whatever that person is doing, they are being distracted from the job of driving.
Even with my TomTom I will not touch the screen unless I am off the road and safe to do so.
Back in 1975/6 I was a professional road user. My area was the whole of the south-west of England and south east Wales. I drove all day long using whatever anyone ever used, maps, lists of places en route and simply asking directions.
All sat-navs and apps on phones do is simplify what any sane person can do with a map. And that includes getting around an obstruction. Which is why I always carry a map in the car.
People do not "need" sat-navs and mobile phone apps, they just "like" them.
So, rant over.
Chonker.
I apologise for my knee jerk response, it isn't like me but without knowing it you touched a raw nerve.
Explantion why to be found above.
I don't think I have anything that would respond to voice commands but if I did, and this is making me think about investigating it, then THAT is something I would approve of, as it should be no different to asking a navigator to do something for you.
Good man. I don't completely agree on screens though. It's becoming unavoidable.
I don't have anything either but I presume such things are available, whether they work or not is another matter.
As for the tablet screen stuck on dash boards with all the controls on it, might aswell have a TV on it (probably has)
It's amazing what we are convinced we all need in a car.
I used to like the 2a dashboard, had everything you needed and nothing else.
My kit cars have stuff like oil pressure gauge, water temp gauge, clock (!), rev counter, voltmeter, etc. Real old skool.
and a map light to be able to read, guess what, at night!
(So I totally get your attitude to your 2a dash!)
People not used to it tell me that it is like being in a plane and ask me how I deal with all this info!
Yet that plane stalled thousands of feet until it landed in the sea despite having three experienced pilots in it and the stall warning warning them they were in a stall! Why? Beats the poop out of me!
I flew gliders as a kid and to me a simple look at the artificial horizon should have told them they were nose up.
People have changed in their attitude to cars, and not for the better.
Hey don't worry about it. I just feel bad that I've been in this forum for all of five minutes and started a war!
This is what happens in cycling forums when people start talking about wearing helmets
Chonker, mate, don't worry about it.Hey don't worry about it. I just feel bad that I've been in this forum for all of five minutes and started a war!
This is what happens in cycling forums when people start talking about wearing helmets
My normal response to new members is to say "Welcome to the forum, and if you haven't yet done so, why not go to the "Introduce Yourself" part of the forum."
But I rather lose it when people use the words "mobile phone" and "car/truck/vehicle" in the same paragraph!
So all my fault. Don't feel bad and "Welcome to the Forum"
Please do put up a couple of pics there, we do love pics!
And do enjoy your Series, they are fun things and relatively easy to work on, being old skool.
Don't start talking about cycling, we have a special thread just for that!Hey don't worry about it. I just feel bad that I've been in this forum for all of five minutes and started a war!
This is what happens in cycling forums when people start talking about wearing helmets
I would use my phone over a satnav purely because i'd have to buy it and i'm basically a tight arse when it comes to buying things i don't need.
Unless of course it's some useless tat for the Landy
You might want to explain to the yoof what an OS map is...
I tried using Waze a few years ago instead of Google maps. It just stopped working. I don't know if it found my route to and from work too basic/boring or what. So i went back to Google
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Map updates are 'free' on a 'phone too. (I paid for Sygic, so technically its free updates aren't completely free).I would use my phone over a satnav purely because i'd have to buy it and i'm basically a tight arse when it comes to buying things i don't need.
Unless of course it's some useless tat for the Landy
Free updates on a TomTom, but only 4 a year.
