dandit1200 · Mar 18, 2016

Back to the template ...
I'm nearly ready to cut the first skin for the chassis out of the steel .I have black washed the template to make it more visible to the eye and we have spent some time getting good the shape sorted I think this could be used as a very good repair patch if you had some chassis to save .what do you think guys

FlyingPete · Mar 18, 2016

One advantage to the hand winch is that you can park the Landy in first gear low range 4wd with the handbrake on. That gives the best possible 'anchor' when you're trying to winch something else. You can't do that with an engine-powered winch.

Hand winches are all about the gearing. With a low enough gear ratio you could pull an artic with just hand effort. But it would take a while.

Random thought- with a rear winch, the current lifting winch on the jib, and a suitable bucket, you'd have a Land Rover dragline excavator

dandit1200 · Mar 18, 2016

Hi there a land rover drag line excavator please elaborate and any pics ?? Sounds interesting and agricultural

FlyingPete said:
One advantage to the hand winch is that you can park the Landy in first gear low range 4wd with the handbrake on. That gives the best possible 'anchor' when you're trying to winch something else. You can't do that with an engine-powered winch.

Hand winches are all about the gearing. With a low enough gear ratio you could pull an artic with just hand effort. But it would take a while.

Random thought- with a rear winch, the current lifting winch on the jib, and a suitable bucket, you'd have a Land Rover dragline excavator

FlyingPete · Mar 19, 2016

A drag line excavator gets used for strip mining. It's basically a large crane with a bucket on the end of the hoist rope. A winch mounted on the base is used to drag the bucket across the surface and scoop up material. They've mainly been replaced for most jobs by the modern hydraulic excavator, but the largest types are still used.

It would be a fun engineering/fabrication project (if not particularly useful) to build a drag line bucket to go on the back of a recovery truck like this

You'd really need 2 people to operate it- one to drive around and the other to stand on the back and operate the winches. Would certainly keep you fit if they were hand cranked!

dandit1200 · Mar 19, 2016

FlyingPete said:
A drag line excavator gets used for strip mining. It's basically a large crane with a bucket on the end of the hoist rope. A winch mounted on the base is used to drag the bucket across the surface and scoop up material. They've mainly been replaced for most jobs by the modern hydraulic excavator, but the largest types are still used.

It would be a fun engineering/fabrication project (if not particularly useful) to build a drag line bucket to go on the back of a recovery truck like this You'd really need 2 people to operate it- one to drive around and the other to stand on the back and operate the winches. Would certainly keep you fit if they were hand cranked!

Hahahaha I love it and it wouldn't take a lot to build a bucket I think that would be easier than the chassis build ill definitely keep that in mind ........got me thinking already Hahahaha nice one

FlyingPete · Mar 19, 2016

Although the crane jib on your Landy is a bit short to make an effective digger- they need a long reach so the winch can draw the bucket back. Once they go past vertical the bucket empties itself

On a recovery truck you want a short jib to get the load as close to the truck as possible.

The bucket itself is little more than a steel box that's open at one end. It's the clever use of the chains and pulleys that makes it work and able to dig, hoist and tip with two winches.

dandit1200 · Mar 19, 2016

It certainly looks like a monster bit of kit especially as there is a cat to compare it to. the sheer size alone of the machine is impressive by any man's standards

markSX · Mar 19, 2016

I admire your determination, but I really don't think Morgan's chassis design is suitable for a landy.

dandit1200 · Mar 19, 2016

Few hinges box of wood screws bit of grip fill hey presto

[QUOTE715172, member: 110788"]I admire your determination, but I really don't think Morgan's chassis design is suitable for a landy.[/QUOTE]
Few screws couple of hinges

scrappyloz · Mar 21, 2016

one of mine from a few years back. Was bought by someone for resto

dandit1200 · Mar 21, 2016

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scrappyloz said:
one of mine from a few years back. Was bought by someone for resto

I like the idea of the hard top .....maybe a canvas would be more practical for winch operation. .....more ideas running through my head

zeaphod · Mar 22, 2016

Can't believe no-one has said it yet - - - I've MOT'd worse!

scrappyloz · Mar 22, 2016

zeaphod said:
Can't believe no-one has said it yet - - - I've MOT'd worse!

the chassis had completely broken through where the front axle joined on that one

scrappyloz · Mar 22, 2016

You can see by the front dumb irons

dandit1200 · Mar 22, 2016

scrappyloz said:
You can see by the front dumb irons

My chassis is in a rite state hence the rebuild .....If I manage to pull it off..... by the end I will have a series 109 chassis in full template form and a fully built 3mm thick chassis and hopefully with change from 400 notes .....wonder what that is worth with a jig ????

Blackburn · Mar 22, 2016

Are the tubes for the spring bushes and shock absorber mounts etc standard size tube ?
How are you planning on doing the length ways joints ie your sheet steel looks like 8x4 sheet

dandit1200 · Mar 23, 2016

Blackburn said:
Are the tubes for the spring bushes and shock absorber mounts etc standard size tube ?
How are you planning on doing the length ways joints ie your sheet steel looks like 8x4 sheet

Hi there there are being joined With butterfly joints on mine it's my first attempt I am lucky tho as I can get larger sheet steel but at cost and ordered in for me .If I was running a business out of this then that is what I would do but I'm not I'm just trying to restore my truck on the cheapest possible way minus god knows how many unpaid man hrs .I'm lucky I can weld and fabricate and spanner and my best mate helps me all the way and he gas very similar skills

dandit1200 · Mar 23, 2016

dandit1200 said:
My chassis is in a rite state hence the rebuild .....If I manage to pull it off..... by the end I will have a series 109 chassis in full template form and a fully built 3mm thick chassis and hopefully with change from 400 notes .....wonder what that is worth with a jig ????

As for the shock mounts I will be making heavy duty mounts ...when I get that far I will post it here with any advise or tips as I learn them