Thor1950 said:
Thank you for supporting what I said and linked to.
6 pot was popular for north american bound series;)
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Thor it's not about supporting or not it's just a matter of finding the correct answer. As I said google can be great but sometimes it doesn't give a very clear picture.

Suggesting an answer is helpful, insisting it's the right answer when you don't know for sure (as I don't) isn't
 
NiteMare said:
being as you're in Oxford (ish) i suggest you pop along to the Banbury Rally at Bloxham later this month, i've organised attendance of the Series2 club stand where we'll have a very smart 109 truck cabbed sixpot with 3/4 tilt

there definitely was quite a few built by landrover as a standard vehicle in 2door, 3door and 5 door layouts, both in S2a and S3 "bonnetted control" form

2 door being pickups, 3 door being van bodied and obviously 5 door being station wagons
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Out of interest do you know if they all have the different bulkhead as per 1tons?
 
owl said:
All the factory ones I have seen have the different bulkhead like 1 tons.
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i'll agree with that

i'll also add that the sixpot chassis will have differences to the fourpot chassis due to the longer engine pushing the gearbox backwards forcing a crossmember or two to be in a different place along with engine mounts

obviously the tunnel and floorplates are also sixpot specific, i think the gearstick is also an individual item

thinking about it, on the sunday of the Banbury Rally i should have at least two sixpots on the stand (fingers crossed) the second one being Seb the one ton so if folks would like to come along to try to see the differences we'll also have my 109 (200tdi'd) for folks to look around and make comparisons

over the weekend i should have 18 or so landrovers showing, from bitsas to very early factory built and registered vehicles, it should be a reasonably interesting stand :)
 
I thought the gearbox was in the same position as a 4 pot? Wish I'd compared mine a little closer when I had the chance now
 
That Banbury thing sounds good, wish I was a bit nearer!

And I would love a one tonne, just saying like. Interesting thread and the first one I have been on today that doesn't have a reply from a certain new member! Refreshing!
 
blue beasty said:
I thought the gearbox was in the same position as a 4 pot? Wish I'd compared mine a little closer when I had the chance now
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I'll try to remember to measure the position of my crossmembers when I get home after work. I'm thought they're in the same place as the 4 pots.
 
The gearbox crossmember on a 6 pot is 92 mm further back and the engine mounts are 57 mm further forward
 
owl said:
The gearbox crossmember on a 6 pot is 92 mm further back and the engine mounts are 57 mm further forward
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Where'd you get these numbers from owl? Having looked in the green bible the only measurement provided is the distance between the gearbox crossmember and the engine mounts, your numbers agree with the green bibles figures of 835mm between gearbox crossmember and engine mounts for 2 1/4 engines and 984mm for the 2.6, which is a difference of 149mm (ie 57mm+92mm like you say) but they don't give any measurements with reference to any of the other crossmembers. I'm not doubting your numbers, just want to know if there's a source of information about my vehicle that I don't know about!

I've been out with a tape measure to measure mine and the distance between the rear face of cross member number 3 (ie the one between the gearbox crossmember and the engine mounts) and the nearest edge of the flange on the bottom face of the gearbox crossmember is 25.6cm give or take. Between the other face of cross member number 3 and the nearest face of the engine mount is approximately 51 cm. As the engine mounts are on a higher plane than the crossmembers I made marks on the ground below each bit and measured between them so that second one is a pretty crude measurement. Anyone got 4 pot measurements?
 
Yes they were available,many years ago a local forestry company had a 6 cyl 109 with truck cab and tilt.Had it for years,must have gulped through thousands of gallons of petrol.
My brother is currently 1/2 way round a tour of OZ in one...
 
Bloke down the road has got a mint 2A 88" soft-top with a 6 pot, which he swears is original / factory fitted. Looks the part too (i.e. no evidence of bulkhead or engine / gearbox mount adjustment.
 
ajb403 said:
Where'd you get these numbers from owl? Having looked in the green bible the only measurement provided is the distance between the gearbox crossmember and the engine mounts, your numbers agree with the green bibles figures of 835mm between gearbox crossmember and engine mounts for 2 1/4 engines and 984mm for the 2.6, which is a difference of 149mm (ie 57mm+92mm like you say) but they don't give any measurements with reference to any of the other crossmembers. I'm not doubting your numbers, just want to know if there's a source of information about my vehicle that I don't know about!

I've been out with a tape measure to measure mine and the distance between the rear face of cross member number 3 (ie the one between the gearbox crossmember and the engine mounts) and the nearest edge of the flange on the bottom face of the gearbox crossmember is 25.6cm give or take. Between the other face of cross member number 3 and the nearest face of the engine mount is approximately 51 cm. As the engine mounts are on a higher plane than the crossmembers I made marks on the ground below each bit and measured between them so that second one is a pretty crude measurement. Anyone got 4 pot measurements?
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I have a genuine series 3 workshop manual and on the 109 chassis dimensions page it gives dimensions for 4 and 6 cylinder chassis.
On the drawing there is a datum line through the front bump stops and a dimension from this line to the engine mounts (LL) 250.7mm for 4 cyl and 193.7mm for 6 cyl and then (HH) which is the dimension from the engine mounts too the gearbox cross member 835mm 4cyl and 984mm 6 cyl.
 
They are all center measurments as in center of bump stop, engine mount and crosmember
 
well there are no records of 88 inch series 2 or 3 six cylinders, but if we can do, land rover certainly could have! and if no one knew about the vehicle being built, then no one will ever know! but iv got 2 six pot 109's, one iv just brought from Derbyshire, from terry( tbone portly) nice bloke, and one a year ago, and when i ripped her apart, it was original chassis, and had been by the sea, so was really rotten, and no chassis mod's, no crappy bodge jobs or anything like that, just a normal land rover chassis. i also have a book on series 2 and 3 land rovers, on all the spec's and everything, and it states that they were made as 109 lwb sw, and lwb van,single cabs. 5 door and 2 door, and all made by land rover. i love them and would do anything to keep a six pot going! i realy do think they were made as 109 lwb six pots, infact i would say they were, why would companies make the chassis if they wernt! :D
 
you never know the 88 six pot could of been a prototype, but propably not. back in the 80's I saw plenty of SWB's with six pot's in some very well done. The first 101's had a six pot. I was once at Stoneleigh show ground and saw a SWB stage one county station wagon in red, all brand new with some factory guys driving it. pity they didn't build them.
 
This is stated in my SIII spec book;


109-inch utilities

941-00001A to 941-02122C Petrol (6-cylinder),home market

(946 etc was station-wagon home market)
 
Hi All,
I am new to this forum but I think I can help clear this up. I am the very proud owner of a series 3 109 3 door hard top with a 2.6L straight 6 engine.
I hope this helps.
She is slow but with smooth power delivery!
 
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