Jongould

Jongould

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Yes I know its been asked before but this isnt about a disclock or pedal lock or any of the other off the shelf stuff, I was wondering what home made security devices people had made? I get so paranoid about mine I am willing to keep bolting on anything that will help deter theft.

So whats people thought off and designed?
 
I was all set to post and then I thought hang on, the criminal types could be reading this too.

Needless to say that to nobble mine you will need more than the key or replacement ECU, that is all that I'll say.

The best way to protect the car from the 'opportunist' is the visible deterrent, against the determined / targetted theft there is no real protection when in public car parks etc.

When mine is home it is invisible from the road, generally parked behind another car and behind locked gates, the driveway it sits on has a perimeter alarm system, the garage it sits in front of is also connected to the house alarm and has 'proximity' alerts too.

The big one in our area is the knock on the door hijack so we don't answer the door to anyone we don't expect, we don't keep the keys for house or cars anywhere that they can be seen and we lock them all in a concealed safe when we go away for any length of time.

My next task is actually to install to drop / anti crash posts by the gates.
 
BenKenobi said:
I was all set to post and then I thought hang on, the criminal types could be reading this too.

Needless to say that to nobble mine you will need more than the key or replacement ECU, that is all that I'll say.

The best way to protect the car from the 'opportunist' is the visible deterrent, against the determined / targetted theft there is no real protection when in public car parks etc.

When mine is home it is invisible from the road, generally parked behind another car and behind locked gates, the driveway it sits on has a perimeter alarm system, the garage it sits in front of is also connected to the house alarm and has 'proximity' alerts too.

The big one in our area is the knock on the door hijack so we don't answer the door to anyone we don't expect, we don't keep the keys for house or cars anywhere that they can be seen and we lock them all in a concealed safe when we go away for any length of time.

My next task is actually to install to drop / anti crash posts by the gates.
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The knock on the door hijack?! Where the hell do you live lol
 
I live within a 20 mile radius of Manchester, I also live in the sticks between two of the main arterial roads across the pennines.

The ner do wells have acquired the habit of knocking on doors and demanding keys, they don't come with fairy wands and never alone if you know what I mean. Has happened to three people not far from me my immediate neighbour included - he lost a golf GTi and an AMG Mercedes in the same night.

There is also the 'collision' based hijack where they will deliberately run into you - when you stop bye bye car or then there is the late night pedestrian lying in the road ploy, when you stop same result - car gone.
 
its got to be a nice car not a beaten up old landy
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I wouldn't be so sure, E-Bay has done a lot for car crime - they now have a ready and eager bargain hunting audience more than ready to obtain that axle, interior or gearbox etc etc.
 
BenKenobi said:
I was all set to post and then I thought hang on, the criminal types could be reading this too.
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I wouldn't worry - they already know ALL the tricks of the trade. They don't need to wade through forums like this to find out how to steal your car.

We should be more open about security, it's only by discussing with each other that we learn what works and what doesn't. The secrecy is a red herring that stops us protecting ourselves to the maximum extent possible.

"Security is not a dirty word you know Blackadder."
 
The trick to security is making sure that they don't know all the tricks in the trade - trust me - just lets say part of what I do means that I play the security game.

It is possible to bypass to some degree anything that we as users can do, anything you can wire they can find and bypass. Trick is to do it in a way that is reliable, secure and hard to find but at the same time being easy for the legitimate driver to defeat. Even then it is hard to stop a crane or beaver tail if they are so determined when you are out and about. Switches under the dash - first thing they look for, switches under the bonnet the second, switches in the back the third, then there is the kill relay hunt performed in a similar manner. Even the people who install trackers etc are stupid because they always fit the damned things in the same places and leave the same tell tales behind - not hard to figure at all.

There is also the malicious ass wipe who will destroy what he can't steal - it's a case of diminishing returns with securing your junk - no not that junk honestly some people.

The only way to secure any moveable item completely is .... non existant.
 
It really sounds like it is getting bad over in England, I have not been back in a while. Fortunately for me I have my concealed carry weapons permits here in the U.S and pack my Glock pretty much where ever I go.
 
BenKenobi said:
I live within a 20 mile radius of Manchester, I also live in the sticks between two of the main arterial roads across the pennines.
Blimey! I thought you were going to say you lived in Johannesburg with precautions like that! Flippin' eck. Things must be bad in Manchester - unless you're totally paranoid, of course....
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I fitted this today i think it can be used as a reasonable deterent, although that was not its sole purpose.
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To start a landy you need to supply the diesel pump with electric for the stop solenoid and and stick a screw driver across the starter to start it up.

Well by fitting a cut off switch in the battery box and then placing a padlock on that box, electrical power can be completely switched off and not turned back on easily.

What do you think of this idea??
 
Idea for moderators or some one with power, can we have a section only accessible to members, or senior members, so we can talk things like security and green lanes without the worry of everyone under the sun finding out ?
 
Not if the fuel shut off solenoid is closed it couldn't. but mechanical diesels are always problematic we used to plumb in a lockable valve into the system - valve closed and locked by the valves cover - if you didn't know where or what it was you weren't going anywhere - except the drivers kept forgetting either to set or to unset it ..

Any steps used to stall, hinder or delay the scrote's taking your pride and joy is worthwhile, any minutes gained are minutes during which they may be spotted.
 
its not very often i leave mine anywhere in public, i never park it on the drive at home but in the locked garage behind the locked gates behind the locked car. Although i don't think its such a big problem here like in the UK
 
Yep look at the price of the locking one you posted :eek:
Then look at the price of the one i posted ;)

My defender is under armed guard mate ;)

Daz
 
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