Whether they like it or notYep, seems like every "advance" made in motoring these days is designed to make the driver lazier and less-responsible
Datatek
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There is an international effort to remove personal responsibilityYep, seems like every "advance" made in motoring these days is designed to make the driver lazier and less-responsible
Tigger Eeyore & Roo
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All of you, please actually try a car with speed sign recognition for at least 10,000 miles and then come back and only then tell me that it isn’t a useful safety aid
Datatek
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No thanks, I prefer to take responsibility for my actions and I have been in a car with that feature and as I said it didn't do the job.Both of you, try a car with speed sign recognition for at least 10,000 miles and then come back and tell me that it isn’t a useful safety aid
I do 100,000 miles a year - mostly in such vehicles. Anything that encourages the driver to pay less attention is NOT a useful safety aid.Both of you, try a car with speed sign recognition for at least 10,000 miles and then come back and tell me that it isn’t a useful safety aid
Our vehicles merely warn the driver that they are exceeding the speed limit, but I believe some actually apply the brakes if the driver does not respond. There are signs on the A9 that indicate that lorries may do 50mph and as these are recognised road signs, other vehicles such as our Ford Ranger pick up on them and "think" that the driver is speeding, when they are not. If such signs were to cause unexpected and unnecessary braking the result could be carnage....and who would be to blame???
hi buddy
hope all is well
does seem with the modern landies everything needs to be turned on, think that’s why many of us buy on own diagnostics to stop the robbing JLR pulling our trousers down, lol
local dealer now wants £180 per hour plus vat
https://www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/document/LK/2016/T19956/18682_en_GBR/proc/G1797165
ps, don’t know if it’s true but does the L405 also come with heated wipers
They come with a winter mode which changes where they park so they don't freeze
cheers , have just added some heated windscreen washer jets , it only took me nearly 2 x days to add them because I had to open up the main fuse box , inc buying a second hand loom
yeh i know , I need to get out more
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So when it is -10C up here the wipers get on the train and park themselves somewhere warmer? Wow! Whatever next!!
ifloochies
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My discovery 2 from 2001 has the same but slightly more advanced version of that system.....it recognizes that I've seen the speed limit sign and complies, or should I say responds accordingly when I get on the brakes.
Not to rain down on the OPs parade, but as others have said, I find modern advances in vehicle technology are starting to border on the ridiculous now.
Have you heard of instances where people having become so dependent on those auto-braking systems that have driven into cyclists and kids on scooters because it didn't recognize them as obstacles? That's just crazy!
I read such stuff and I cant imagine approaching an object whiles driving and not having the impulse to get on the brakes.....does that still count as driving?
Talking about crazy....ford started putting timing/drive belts into the engine, immersed in oil - as if life trying to put their stuff right when they break isn't already complex enough.
Not to rain down on the OPs parade, but as others have said, I find modern advances in vehicle technology are starting to border on the ridiculous now.
Have you heard of instances where people having become so dependent on those auto-braking systems that have driven into cyclists and kids on scooters because it didn't recognize them as obstacles? That's just crazy!
I read such stuff and I cant imagine approaching an object whiles driving and not having the impulse to get on the brakes.....does that still count as driving?
Talking about crazy....ford started putting timing/drive belts into the engine, immersed in oil - as if life trying to put their stuff right when they break isn't already complex enough.
ifloochies
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cheers , have just added some heated windscreen washer jets , it only took me nearly 2 x days to add them because I had to open up the main fuse box , inc buying a second hand loom
yeh i know , I need to get out more
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All that for heated washer jets?!
All that for heated washer jets?!
couldn't agree more, it was supposed to be a straight forward job, with the spare connection inside the main fuse box, nope, one second hand loom later , many many hours later they were fitted, lol
also got the D4 heated jets as there better than the D3
but at the end of the day indeed agree was a lot of work just for heaters but must admit it drove me insane every time driving down the motorway and couldn’t wash the screen because the jets had frozen
gold rover
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Sorry @Tigger Eeyore & Roo got to disagree with you on this one. They're a damn nuisance and a distraction. I've been driving all sorts, of brand new vehs recently, because I want to keep mileage down on the Golden Girl. The only useful modern tech I have found in any of them , was the heads up speed display on the Volvo. Due to my seating position , (which , for the smart alecks , no is not with seat in sleeping position, quite the opposite) I often find the steering wheel obscures the dash speed display. Being a bit of a stickler for speed limits, that becomes a nuisance.
The speed sign function is pointless. With smart motorways, motorway/A/B road roadworks, all causing changes to the designated speed limit, at a moment's notice, the alert driver's point of reference should be the signs, at that time, on the road they are driving. Not some piece of software that could be years, months, weeks, days, or even minutes out of date.
The speed sign function is pointless. With smart motorways, motorway/A/B road roadworks, all causing changes to the designated speed limit, at a moment's notice, the alert driver's point of reference should be the signs, at that time, on the road they are driving. Not some piece of software that could be years, months, weeks, days, or even minutes out of date.
Here we have window washer solution rated for -40f works a treat. also have defrosters that heats up the windshieldcheers , have just added some heated windscreen washer jets , it only took me nearly 2 x days to add them because I had to open up the main fuse box , inc buying a second hand loom
yeh i know , I need to get out more
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Tigger Eeyore & Roo
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Another new member driven away then
Not too sure what the objective was here.
Not too sure what the objective was here.
Tigger Eeyore & Roo
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@ gold rover - the handy thing with speed sign recognition is that it is instantaneous and doesn’t depend on any database
