See Glos. Constabulary post from FB on Stolen Landrover Section ...
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/fear-again.317213/#post-4024374
See Glos. Constabulary post from FB on Stolen Landrover Section ...
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/fear-again.317213/#post-4024374
Idrivebimma
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Michael Fear & co are still at it! Found them on Ebay with user ID ex2017. (He is trading with companies Excell trade ltd and just 4 ltd) advertising Discovery 4 parts / breaking for salvage. On the 27th September 2017 I Rang them up and they said they got the engine which was what I’m after. Agreed on a price of £3,500. I said I’ll come down for inspection before buying but they said I need to make a deposit to put the engine on hold. He emailed me a company bank info, I then transferred a deposit of £1,500. Then rang to get an appointment and address to come inspect, make the rest of the payment and collect the engine. He confirmed payment and said he will email or text details. He won’t send the details through and started ignoring my calls, I used a different phone number once he noticed my voice he hung up. Emailed him through Ebay for a refund he won’t. Now I said I want my money back through Ebay. He replied saying it’s a breach of contract that he won’t refund!
It’s really shocking that in this day and age one could be scamming people broad day light and still operate a business.
It’s really shocking that in this day and age one could be scamming people broad day light and still operate a business.
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
I'm sorry to hear that fella
I've no idea how theyre allowed to continue. Contact Trading Stardards, they'll be building a file on him....again!
Other than that I don't know other than to say keep all money transfers where you have protection, PayPal/credit card, if they want money outside of anything that gives you some protection it's because they don't want you protected.
thebiglad
Well-Known Member
And did you know that the firm selling this engine was Micheal Fear and his clan ?
Idrivebimma
Member
Nop didn’t know who Michael Fear was, just knew the company was trading on Ebay and it happened to have the engine I was after... it was when he started ignoring my calls and would hung up on me then I decided to research about the company and Michael and was shocked in what I’ve seen on some of the scam people had gone through..
Idrivebimma
Member
Attached is the email I got off him. By the way the investigations so far revealed the bank account isn’t actually Natwest, it is Cash Plus, a non high prepaid bank account for people with bad credit. Easy to open and launder funds. The mobile number on the attachment is his current mobile phone. As he’s got 4 more listings on Ebay with the same phone number. So worried that more and more innocent people would stumble across his listings and end up being a victim.
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Idrivebimma
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Upon doing some research I found out he is a company director on these companies.
List of directors for both companies and persons with significant control operated by Michael Fear:
This applies to both , Excel Trade LTD & Just 4 Ltd.
Registered office address
246a Court Oak Road, Birmingham, United Kingdom, B32 2EG
HATTON, Simon
Correspondence address
246a, Court Oak Road, Birmingham, United Kingdom, B32 2EG
Fear Michael
Correspondence address
246a, Court Oak Road, Birmingham, United Kingdom, B32 2EG
Date of birth
July 1960
Just 4 Ltd
Registered office address
Unit 6 New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
ROWLEY, Neil
Correspondence address
Unit 6, New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
SHAKLETON, Carl Christian
Correspondence address
Unit 6, New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
Date of birth
October 1969
MOORE, Louis Andrew
Correspondence address
61 Hardwick Av, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, United Kingdom, NP16 5EB
COOKE, Denzil
Correspondence address
2 Avalon Place, Tranch, Pontypool, Gwent, NP4 6ES
Date of birth
June 1960
FEAR, Michael
Correspondence address
Unit 6, New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
Date of birth
July 1960
MOORE, Lewis Andrew
Correspondence address
61 Hardwick Av, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, United Kingdom, NP16 5EB
Date of birth
November 1990
List of directors for both companies and persons with significant control operated by Michael Fear:
This applies to both , Excel Trade LTD & Just 4 Ltd.
Registered office address
246a Court Oak Road, Birmingham, United Kingdom, B32 2EG
HATTON, Simon
Correspondence address
246a, Court Oak Road, Birmingham, United Kingdom, B32 2EG
Fear Michael
Correspondence address
246a, Court Oak Road, Birmingham, United Kingdom, B32 2EG
Date of birth
July 1960
Just 4 Ltd
Registered office address
Unit 6 New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
ROWLEY, Neil
Correspondence address
Unit 6, New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
SHAKLETON, Carl Christian
Correspondence address
Unit 6, New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
Date of birth
October 1969
MOORE, Louis Andrew
Correspondence address
61 Hardwick Av, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, United Kingdom, NP16 5EB
COOKE, Denzil
Correspondence address
2 Avalon Place, Tranch, Pontypool, Gwent, NP4 6ES
Date of birth
June 1960
FEAR, Michael
Correspondence address
Unit 6, New Dunn Business Park, Sling, Coleford, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, GL16 8JD
Date of birth
July 1960
MOORE, Lewis Andrew
Correspondence address
61 Hardwick Av, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, United Kingdom, NP16 5EB
Date of birth
November 1990
Hippo
Lord Hippo
@Idrivebimma
If you have been tricked into paying money to him via yer bank then go to the bank and talk to them about it. There are some things they can do, but I don't know if that will apply to the transaction and purchase agreement you have made. Also talk to someone like citizens advice or trading standards. They may not be able to doing anything but may be able to give you advise on your next step. At least it will be another person with bad dealings with him which they have on record. Unfortunately you have paid money towards a purchase you hadn't seen and didn't know existed. That's rule no 1 broken. If he was a propper business then allowing someone to view something before purchase wouldn't normally be a problem if it's an engine.
If you have been tricked into paying money to him via yer bank then go to the bank and talk to them about it. There are some things they can do, but I don't know if that will apply to the transaction and purchase agreement you have made. Also talk to someone like citizens advice or trading standards. They may not be able to doing anything but may be able to give you advise on your next step. At least it will be another person with bad dealings with him which they have on record. Unfortunately you have paid money towards a purchase you hadn't seen and didn't know existed. That's rule no 1 broken. If he was a propper business then allowing someone to view something before purchase wouldn't normally be a problem if it's an engine.
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
It is a police matter but they will refer it to trading standards to build a case against him, just like the last time.
Idrivebimma
Member
The police are aware and are investigating. After spreading what they are upto here and few other platforms, whilst at work today out the blue they sent me a text messsge and it reads ‘ We will refund please email confirmation of cancelled order for engine with your name address & bank details thanks Denzil‘
Interestingly I had sent them my full bank info when I requested refund previously. Not sure this is just a hoax so I would not keep spreading the word. Will keep you posted...
Interestingly I had sent them my full bank info when I requested refund previously. Not sure this is just a hoax so I would not keep spreading the word. Will keep you posted...
Idrivebimma
Member
They’ve gone back to the old tactic of ignoring my calls, sms and email since I sent them the my bank info for refund!
probably a stalling tactic as my bank and the police fraud, trading standards are on the case already. I won’t let go until full refund is done, would explore all the options available even ones I can’t mention here. They got to be stopped. Times are hard and unacceptable for some conman to sit and keep scamming people from their hard earned cash. Having a broken vehicle engine that costs 3.5k alone makes ones finances meddled, and on top of that a conman thieving another £1,500. Very Shameful
probably a stalling tactic as my bank and the police fraud, trading standards are on the case already. I won’t let go until full refund is done, would explore all the options available even ones I can’t mention here. They got to be stopped. Times are hard and unacceptable for some conman to sit and keep scamming people from their hard earned cash. Having a broken vehicle engine that costs 3.5k alone makes ones finances meddled, and on top of that a conman thieving another £1,500. Very Shameful
julianf
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I spoke with trading standards about Edward. They basically told me they had other things to be spending their time on.
Maybe if they paid a bit more attention, people wouldn't still be getting hit.
I was fortunate - section 75 sorted me out, but that was more luck than planning. The ltd company thing gives the illusion of stability / traceability.
Maybe if they paid a bit more attention, people wouldn't still be getting hit.
I was fortunate - section 75 sorted me out, but that was more luck than planning. The ltd company thing gives the illusion of stability / traceability.
Colthebrummie
Well-Known Member
It least it has saved you from the very real prospect of driving around with a stolen engine.
Col
biggles_butler
Member
Be careful what you send them - they can easily take money from your account if you've sent them bank details. Keep an eye on your account.
The only legal way (if a refund is not forthcoming) is to take him to small claims - of course he probably won't pay in which case you'll need a high court writ followed by enforcement by which time "Excell Trade Limited" will be wound up.
Did you pay into a business account ?
Surprised that he hasn't been disqualified from directorship yet. Looking at CH, he is no longer a director at Excell and Just 4. Just 4 Cars Limited is his new start up!
