Landorbandy
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Did you manage to get the pictures? Price etc ?thats a positive then
ETHANS2
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Recently had my console completely out and the wires were thereMost of the switch/ blank is still in the console.
Hi All, Just resurrecting this thread because I'm now the proud owner of some leather seats from a 2005 car and I've just been giving them a clean and noticed a heated seat control unit under each of the front ones and wires leading to what I assume must be the heater pads in the foam. @ETHANS2 I was wondering whereabouts your wires were and how you got your console out, please?
Well, I've taken the seats out and under the driver's seat there are two wires. One with the yellow connector, was connected to the seatbelt pre-tensioner. The other one, with the grey connector, wasn't connected to anything. There are two wires to it, on red and white, the other black. I got all excited thinking that it must be for a seat heater, but there isn't a matching one under the passenger seat. Instead that has a CD changer wire. Does anyone know what the spare one under the driver's seat is for, please?
GrumpyGel
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Maybe not, this is the wire I was thinking of (the one going down past the handbrake cables)...
Gosh your carpets are cleaner than mine! Whatever it is, it emerges from the same protective trunking as the pre-tensioner wire. It can't reach anything other than the bottom of the seat, but the wires look awfully thin for seat heater wires! Also, it has the wrong plug on it. It's a 3-way plug but with only two wires in it. The only thing I don't know, is whether the connector changed between 2001 and 2005.
Nodge68
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I think some market's required a seat sensor for a belt reminder chime. I suspect that's what those thin wires are for.
rob_bell
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I was going to suggest the same!
THAT'S more like it!
Thanks both, that does sound about right.
I suppose the next question now, is how I go about wiring up seat heaters. The seats themselves each have the relevant control units under them. obviously, I'll have to pick up a couple of second hand switches. Is there anything else I'd need though? Looking at the wiring diagram in the Haynes manual, I can see mention of the "Central Control Unit" next to the fusebox. Will all Freelanders have one of those, or are they peculiar to the heated seat versions? Also, what wire gauge would anyone recommend?
OH, and does anyone know what sort of connectors I'd need to order, to make the necessary connections in the fuse box, please? Presumably when I pull out the fuse box, there will be a multi plug on the back of it with some empty holes where the heated seat power should come from, so I'd need a suitable pin to crimp a wire on to and shove into the back of the connector block?
Nodge68
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I think the wiring to the switches will be there, behind the switch blanks. It's best to check, so you'll know if you need to add the switch harness to your shopping list.
The CCU is behind the fuse box.
I'd get the correct harness. But if you need to make the harness, then 12 gauge wire will be ok.
Most connections are in blocks, but the actual connectors are standard 15 Amp blade type connectors. The CCU only powers the seat heater, once the engine is running, hence why the power comes from there.
Thanks Nodge. Can't see any wires when I peer through the blanking holes with a torch. Also, the fact that there are no wires under the carpet leading to the seats makes me think my car doesn't have that loom.
Is the CCU fitted to all cars? (and it is the same on all cars, or do I need a different one for heated seats)?
Is the CCU fitted to all cars? (and it is the same on all cars, or do I need a different one for heated seats)?
rob_bell
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The other question is whether there is just the one CCU for all models irrespective of trim level - I'd hope so.
To be honest, my 2001 "S" 3-door doesn't have the harness either, so I gave up looking for heated seats. But retro-fitting and manufacturing a new harness shouldn't be too hard - and quite a nice project if you like things electrical
To be honest, my 2001 "S" 3-door doesn't have the harness either, so I gave up looking for heated seats. But retro-fitting and manufacturing a new harness shouldn't be too hard - and quite a nice project if you like things electrical
Nodge68
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You're best stripping the looms from a suitable donor, then you'll see how it all goes together.
All FL1s have a CCU, as it's used to control many items, the rear window, door locking and wiper controls being a few. I believe that the CCU will power the seat heaters just fine.
It would be a good upgrade, and not to difficult to carry out, once all the necessary electrics are sorted.
I'm a step closer now - I have a pair of switches and their associated connectors! However, there are 4 wires from each switch - two thick and 2 thin. I assume the thick ones are for the supply to the actual heater (they're the right colours according to the wiring diagram) but are the two thin ones - I'm guessing for the lights in the switches? They're one red and one black on each switch but they don't appear in the wiring diagram?
Nodge68
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Right.. back on with this wee project now. Centre console out and definitely no wires there. I've pulled the fuse box out and according to the Haynes manual, there's a brown wire from Pin 1 of Connector 584 to power the heated seats. Sure enough, Connector 584 on the back of the fuse box does contain three quite hefty male spade terminals and for one of the pins (they don't seem to be labelled) there is an empty receptacle in the loom connector that plugs into it. Also, there's continuity between one terminal of Fuse 29 and that pin. Fuse 29 is supposed to be for heated seats, so I'm pretty certain that's the one I need to connect to. The only slight doubt is that from the OTHER side of the fuse 29, I get continuity to several pins.Does anyone know (when looking at the fuse box in the car, with the line of relays below the two rows of fuses), which side of the fuse is the power going into the fuse and which is the power coming out, please? (i.e. is the top fuse blade the feed or the bottom one.
