88"Landy · Apr 9, 2021

Hi All,
I have just started stripping a 1969 series 2a to do a full rebuild, new chassis new bulkhead etc. A few questions that I have are:
1) Do I rebuild it using metric where possible?
2) Do I convert the front brakes to discs?
3) and the question that people have many different opinions about do I rebuild with stainless where possible?
4) Would metric and brake upgrades de-value it?
I do like originality but are the upgrades a big improvement?
I am sure there will be many more questions down the line but these are a few for starters.
Help would be appreciated.

divie · Apr 9, 2021

To what use do you envisage the finished vehicle being put to ?

nathanglasgow · Apr 9, 2021

Most 'upgrades' devalue classic vehicles. Standard swb 10" brakes, if well set up and maintained, are actually quite good. Stainless and aluminium are not the best of friends. There is some chemistry involved re galvanitic corrosion! They can be used if there is a physical barrier between the two metals. Nothing to be gained in using metric fittings, the original imperial sizes are readily available. Out of interest where are you getting your new bulkhead from?

WoodyO · Apr 9, 2021

I'm on a very similar project to you, with a '73 109, chassis, bulkhead etc. I've got a thread in the members projects section if you want to have a scroll for any ideas.

I've kept most fittings imperial, as Nathan says they're easily available. That being said, I have mixed in some metric where I either already had it on the shelf or it was easier at the time.

A word of caution when getting the new bulkhead, depending where you source it, it will require a fair bit of work in terms of holes, tapping for bolts, brackets etc.

As for upgrades, I plan to keep it as original as possible but not being a stickler. If it makes sense to upgrade or modernise then I have done.

Clear fuel lines, battery isolator, defender seats, halogen headlights, relays on the wiring loom and new fuse box etc.

Colthebrummie · Apr 10, 2021

I would stick to imperial for fasteners and not use stainless steel. A dab of grease on all fasteners will make them last 50 years. It's up to you how you modernise it but keep all the original bits, e.g. Brake drums etc as that will lessen any devaluing if/when you decide to sell it.

Col

Turboman · Apr 10, 2021

88"Landy said:
Hi All,
I have just started stripping a 1969 series 2a to do a full rebuild, new chassis new bulkhead etc. A few questions that I have are:
1) Do I rebuild it using metric where possible?
2) Do I convert the front brakes to discs?
3) and the question that people have many different opinions about do I rebuild with stainless where possible?
4) Would metric and brake upgrades de-value it?
I do like originality but are the upgrades a big improvement?
I am sure there will be many more questions down the line but these are a few for starters.
Help would be appreciated.

There isn't actually much wrong with a standard Series in good condition.
Radial tyres are an improvement, so is electronic ignition if it is petrol engined.
Other than that, I would keep it standard, modification will always reduce value.
When it is done, don't forget agreed value insurance. 2a are worth good money these days.

tottot · Apr 10, 2021

WoodyO said:
Clear fuel lines, battery isolator, defender seats, halogen headlights, relays on the wiring loom and new fuse box etc.

Defender seats, I have found that late model series 3 "delux " seats are more comfortable than Defender can can be on sliding rails.

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

Hi Thank you for your reply.
It is in such a bad state I could do anything to it, but I like original so this is the way I want to go.
I bought it more or less blind. So when it arrived I found that it needs more work than I was told.
I have uploaded some pics.

Colthebrummie · Apr 10, 2021

To be honest, it doesn't look much worse than mine when I bought it. New wheels, track rod ends, new brake shoes, new ignition switch and a bit of wiring correction and I was driving it around. Everything else is/has been done whilst using it.

All old ladies come with a supply of straw.

Col

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

Hi, I hope that I can get a chassis from Shielder Chassis I have not spoken to them yet.
Link: https://www.shielderchassis.com/all-bulkheads/series-bulkheads/series-2-and-2a/
What I thought was if I buy my Chassis and Bulkhead from the same place hopefully they will fit together better..
I was told when I bought my Landie that the bulkhead was salvageable but the vents have rotted all the way through and the OSF door pillar is not there.

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

Thanks Col,
My Chassis is completely rotted through the dumb irons so its almost sitting on the bump stops.

Palagius · Apr 10, 2021

hi,
on mine i uprated the brakes using a tls 11" setup with servo,a straightforward installation using contemporary land rover parts,if you really want to fit a disc setup then to be honest you should sell the 2a and buy a later model as the next step will be power steering,aircon,airbag etc
i would suggest that you search for 'Glencoyne land rovers' as they have lots of pertinent info which is extremely useful for us older series owners,
expeditionlandrover is another useful site,
p.s,
have a look at replacement panels/sections for land rovers and find a competent local welder as the rot around the vents is easily fixed and these problamatic and commonly failing areas are well catered for by the many and reasonably priced replacement panel suppliers,
ryn @beautiful and sunny west cornwall

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

rynner said:
hi,
on mine i uprated the brakes using a tls 11" setup with servo,a straightforward installation using contemporary land rover parts,if you really want to fit a disc setup then to be honest you should sell the 2a and buy a later model as the next step will be power steering,aircon,airbag etc
i would suggest that you search for 'Glencoyne land rovers' as they have lots of pertinent info which is extremely useful for' us older series owners,
expeditionlandrover is another useful site,

Ok Thanks,
No, I think you are right drum brakes are ok, I was just collecting information before I plan the build.

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

tottot said:
Defender seats, I have found that late model series 3 "delux " seats are more comfortable than Defender can can be on sliding rails.

Thanks for the info.

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

rynner said:
hi,
on mine i uprated the brakes using a tls 11" setup with servo,a straightforward installation using contemporary land rover parts,if you really want to fit a disc setup then to be honest you should sell the 2a and buy a later model as the next step will be power steering,aircon,airbag etc
i would suggest that you search for 'Glencoyne land rovers' as they have lots of pertinent info which is extremely useful for us older series owners,
expeditionlandrover is another useful site,
p.s,
have a look at replacement panels/sections for land rovers and find a competent local welder as the rot around the vents is easily fixed and these problamatic and commonly failing areas are well catered for by the many and reasonably priced replacement panel suppliers,
ryn @beautiful and sunny west cornwall

Ok will do. I can't seem to find the inner panel for the vents because mine internally have completely gone.

Turboman · Apr 10, 2021

88"Landy said:
Hi, I hope that I can get a chassis from Shielder Chassis I have not spoken to them yet.
Link: https://www.shielderchassis.com/all-bulkheads/series-bulkheads/series-2-and-2a/
What I thought was if I buy my Chassis and Bulkhead from the same place hopefully they will fit together better..
I was told when I bought my Landie that the bulkhead was salvageable but the vents have rotted all the way through and the OSF door pillar is not there.

Shielder don't have a great reputation, from what I have seen.

Anything is salvageable, but I am not sure if that bulkhead would justify the time and effort as opposed to getting a new one. All depends of how much you enjoy grinding and fabrication.

Looks like that will keep you busy for a while. Best of luck!

tottot · Apr 10, 2021

Terratechparts is a company that make and supply new galvanised bulkheads. Expect to pay about £1800. Do not know any detail about them though.

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2021

If it's structural I wouldn't used stainless as it can be brittle. If it were me I'd try to get it running before you strip it

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2021

One snapped stainless bolt

88"Landy · Apr 10, 2021

Turboman said:
Shielder don't have a great reputation, from what I have seen.

Anything is salvageable, but I am not sure if that bulkhead would justify the time and effort as opposed to getting a new one. All depends of how much you enjoy grinding and fabrication.

Looks like that will keep you busy for a while. Best of luck!

Thanks, every bolt so far has snapped but it's probably a good thing. I will make a decision on the bulkhead when it's stripped but, it looks really bad there doesn't look like there is much left.

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