WLJayne

WLJayne

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Hi guys,

My D2 savings fund is now well and truly coming along and in a few weeks I'll be purchasing one. I'm doing a lot of homework before I do as I want to make sure I know how much it's going to cost to get everything done that I want to do.

The first things will be simple, some lamp guards and a fuel map and the standard mods like EGR if it hasn't already been done. However I'm pretty stumped on the 2" lift and 265/75 AT's side of things. After reading through Trewey's very informative guide I'm left scratching my head, and I'm having a hard time find the bits he mentions and I have no idea which ones are any good.

So it looks like on top of the larger tyres I will need to fit:

Rear spacers
Front springs (may fit a rock bumper later so need to think about that too)
Extended brake hoses
Possibly extended dampers
PU bushes throughout
Possibly a new steering damper
Cranked rear trailing arms
Castor corrected radius arms

Also he mentions a panhard rod and wide-yoke props. I have no diea what tose two things are.

I don't mind spending a bit of money on this if it's going to mean lasting performance. Could anyone help me find a shop selling these items, preferrably good quality versions. I need to get my head around what each parts is doing too, aia know a bit about castor angles etc etc but I'm no expert.

Is there anything else to consider when fitting 32" tyres and a 2" to a D2 specifically? It'd be great to be able to make a shopping list to work through so I know how much money I have to find ;).

Cheers guys,

Will.
 
panhard rod stops lateral movement of front axle ,its connected to chassis and axle as you lift chassis away from axle your in effect shortening the rod ,wide yoke props help with the greater angle on props but d2 has double cardan front prop so not necessary,rear spacers presume your going for air not springs
 
jamesmartin said:
panhard rod stops lateral movement of front axle ,its connected to chassis and axle as you lift chassis away from axle your in effect shortening the rod ,wide yoke props help with the greater angle on props but d2 has double cardan front prop so not necessary,rear spacers presume your going for air not springs
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Thanks James!! Just what I needed to know ;). Yes I'll be keeping the airbags as it'll be nice to have ACE (if it's working!!)

I see that Terrafirma do pretty much all the items needed for a full-fat D2 2" lift, I hear generally goof things about then, are they trustworthy?

Will.
 
ace is a totally different system to air ,ace is fitted to coil sprung models as well,mines got coils and ace,and ace does work very well improves handling quite a bit,though you cant tell its working as such ,never used them on my own vehicle but those ive fitted for others ,ive had no complaints, you can go as far as you like ,some just fit 4 x 2inch lift springs
 
jamesmartin said:
ace is a totally different system to air ,ace is fitted to coil sprung models as well,mines got coils and ace,and ace does work very well improves handling quite a bit,though you cant tell its working as such ,never used them on my own vehicle but those ive fitted for others ,ive had no complaints, you can go as far as you like ,some just fit 4 x 2inch lift springs
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Ah ok. Will I need the cranked rear trailing arms? I can't seem to find them for the D2, is that because they don't need them on air suspension?

Either way, all in with tyres it comes to over 1600 quid. Sheesh!!!
 
WLJayne said:
Ah ok. Will I need the cranked rear trailing arms? I can't seem to find them for the D2, is that because they don't need them on air suspension?

Either way, all in with tyres it comes to over 1600 quid. Sheesh!!!
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Think cleve Pressbrake can bend them for you

Tyre package from where?
 
WLJayne said:
Ah ok. Will I need the cranked rear trailing arms? I can't seem to find them for the D2, is that because they don't need them on air suspension?

Either way, all in with tyres it comes to over 1600 quid. Sheesh!!!
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2" isnt very high ,d2 trailing arms have a totally different bush than d1 so arm been straightish doesnt matter apart from angle of air spring if you lifted to far
 
Thor1950 said:
Think cleve Pressbrake can bend them for you

Tyre package from where?
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I usually get BFG's from Extra Grip Tyres in Notts. £155 a corner inc VAT for 265/75/16. Not bad really :), was £125 each for the 215/70/16's on my hippo :).
 
WLJayne said:
That's a good price :).

I was just looking at KM2's, and they're only 1db louder than AT's and have an A rating for wet braking. I really wouldn't have thought they would be that good. 10 quid cheaper per tyre too!!
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It is tough to bet a cooper tyre quality and milage, and Craddocks have about the best price I have seen.
 
Why bother with all the lift bull**** and all the associated expense in then getting the suspension geometry correct again.
The biggest issue is under diff clearance in the ruts and larger diameter tyres help alleviate this and you can do this without a suspension lift.
Earlier D2s will require front bumper trimming to get 265s to fit or fit a winch bumper instead, later facelift D2s have a shallower bumper and you may get away without trimming.
The rear arches are large enough to accommodate the larger tyres without modification.
This applies to standard Land Rover wheel rims, if you fit anything else with a wider offset more modifications may be required.
 
BOOMER said:
Why bother with all the lift bull**** and all the associated expense in then getting the suspension geometry correct again.
The biggest issue is under diff clearance in the ruts and larger diameter tyres help alleviate this and you can do this without a suspension lift.
Earlier D2s will require front bumper trimming to get 265s to fit or fit a winch bumper instead, later facelift D2s have a shallower bumper and you may get away without trimming.
The rear arches are large enough to accommodate the larger tyres without modification.
This applies to standard Land Rover wheel rims, if you fit anything else with a wider offset more modifications may be required.
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Just weighing the options :). So 32" tyres will fit a 2004 D2 then? No rubbing or anything?
 
WLJayne said:
Just weighing the options :). So 32" tyres will fit a 2004 D2 then? No rubbing or anything?
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My old one was a coil sprung year 2000 D2, I ran 265s on it ok with no issues with rubbing or anything. it had standard height original springs and the tyres were fitted to original Land Rover alloys.
The only significant difference was a winch bumper on the front which meant there were no clearance issues with the arch section of a standard bumper.
I have no personal experience with the later Landmark face lift bumper (standard fit 2003 model year onwards) other than I know it offers better approach angle due to being shallower in its design.
Therefore I cannot say with certainty as to whether the later design bumper will or will not require modification to accommodate the larger tyres.
A tape measure is a good first step.....
 
Right I have decided, gonna start with 267/75 KM2's with 2" rear spacers, 2" springs and castor correction arms. If I get more greelanes it I'll look at all the other stuff which will give me more artikerlayshun. Cheers guys i'm well excited now, think I've found the one I wan too! Who knows maybe by the end of this week it'll be mine ;).

GF wants to keep the hippo now. Yeh I would like to keep it but we just dunt need 3 cars!!!
 
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