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(I'm from (NE) Essex, in case you couldn't tell ...)

I am the proud owner of a LHD 2001 Td4 Non-BinaryLander down here in Portugal myself, and so was only interested in the first iso, but I thought I'd post this here as its a generic solution

I was going to post asking how to do this, but I managed to sort it out (Thanks to @GrumpyGel for his help via messages)

However, the simple guide below may be helpful to someone?
It will definitely be helpful to me when I need to do it again and have forgotten how the bloody hell I did it.
Anyway - it may well be an unsolicited answer to a question no one asked, but WTF

#1. Getting the RAVE iso's

The three RAVE ISO's can be downloaded via:
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/rave-disk-maintenance-manual.260227/#post-3871007

There are also links to other versions in this post:
https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/rave-not-running-under-windows-10.346140/
but I think Hippo's 3 ISO's are all that should be needed

I am sure that there are other sources that I dont know of as well

#2. Mounting & Extracting folders & files from ISO's


1. Double click on .iso file to mount it
2. Copy the mounted folder - e.g. 'Rave (Discovery II _ Freelander '01)' for rave01.iso - to somewhere on your file system (can be Desktop or wherever)

#3. How to run RAVE on Win 10
Since the RAVE ISO's use an 'embedded' old version (4.0) of Adobe Acrobat to read the PDF's and since this version does not work on Win 10 'out of the box' we have to follow the work-around below:

For me, in Windows 10, the following solution from the first post in this thread :
https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/rave-not-running-under-windows-10.346140/
was successful:
RAVE Not Running Under Windows 10?
"Those of you who are now running Windows 10 and have all the latest updates including, specifically, version 2004 and later may find that RAVE with the inbuilt Adobe Acrobat v4 PDF reader will no longer run. This is because Acrobat v4 is an old timer and Windows 10 - the new kid on the block - has consigned it to be incompatible. On startup you will see a message of "The portable document format is not running" or similar. Windows 10 instructions to then try and resolve the issue will not work!

Don't panic - follow these simple steps and you will have RAVE up and running and back to rude health in no time:

In the RAVE folder:

A. Right click on AcroRd32.exe in the Acorbat4\Reader folder. Select "Properties" and then "Compatibility". Under "Compatibility Mode" check the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and from the drop down menu select "Windows 98 / Windows Me". Apply/OK all selections.

B. Right click on RAVE.exe in the appropriate folder. Select "Properties" and then "Compatibility". Under "Compatibility Mode" check the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and from the drop down menu select "Windows 98 / Windows Me". Apply/OK selections.

That's it."


So, now, after doing A. and B. above (on the files in the folder I copied to my file system, NOT the ones in the mounted ISO) I could just click on rave.exe and I had my RAVE back!

There were a number of 'this file cant be found' errors to 'OK' at the beginning, but then it was all there and working!

# 4. RAVE on Win 10 in Virtual Machine (VM) on Linux (OPTIONAL)
This is **optional** for anyone like me who wants to run RAVE on Linux (nearly, anyway!)

(i) Mount the ISO by double clicking it in PCManFM
(ii) Copy the folder to somewhere in the folder structure of the VM. If you put it somewhere else, for example on another partition or disk connected to the VM via a 'Guest Additions Shared Folder' , then step (iii) below wont do its magic (see Note below).
(iii) Change the compatibility properties as detailed for Win 10 in #3. above

BINGO!
In fact there were not even any of the 'this file cant be found' errors that I encuntered in the Dualboot Win 10 instance.

I am using ArchLabs Linux and PCManFM file manager & Oracle VirtualBox, but YMMV with other OS's and filemanager and VM apps, perhaps?

Note:

When trying to run rave.exe in Win 10 Virtual Machine (VM) on Linux, the compatibility settings above did not work, giving an 'The specified path does not exist' error.

From this post:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=80854#p379509

"FWIW, if you're trying to run the exe using a Guest Additions Shared Folder, know that Guest Additions Shared Folders are really just for file copying between the host and the guest, not for running programs, databases, etc. like a real shared folder can do."


My RAVE folder was on a NTFS partition which is a Guest Additions Shared Folder in the Win 10 VM

So, I copied the RAVE folder to the desktop of the VM (thus avoiding trying to run rave.exe from a Guest Additions Shared Folder), changed the compatibility properties A. & B. above, and BINGO!
 
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Good Evening
(I'm from (NE) Essex, in case you couldn't tell ...)

I am the proud owner of a LHD 2001 Td4 Non-BinaryLander down here in Portugal myself, and so was only interested in the first iso, but I thought I'd post this here as its a generic solution

I was going to post asking how to do this, but I managed to sort it out (Thanks to @GrumpyGel for his help via messages)

However, the simple guide below may be helpful to someone?
It will definitely be helpful to me when I need to do it again and have forgotten how the bloody hell I did it.
Anyway - it may well be an unsolicited answer to a question no one asked, but WTF

#1. Getting the RAVE iso's

The three RAVE ISO's can be downloaded via:
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/rave-disk-maintenance-manual.260227/#post-3871007

There are also links to other versions in this post:
https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/rave-not-running-under-windows-10.346140/
but I think Hippo's 3 ISO's are all that should be needed

I am sure that there are other sources that I dont know of as well

#2. Mounting & Extracting folders & files from ISO's


1. Double click on .iso file to mount it
2. Copy the mounted folder - e.g. 'Rave (Discovery II _ Freelander '01)' for rave01.iso - to somewhere on your file system (can be Desktop or wherever)

#3. How to run RAVE on Win 10
Since the RAVE ISO's use an 'embedded' old version (4.0) of Adobe Acrobat to read the PDF's and since this version does not work on Win 10 'out of the box' we have to follow the work-around below:

For me, in Windows 10, the following solution from the first post in this thread :
https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/rave-not-running-under-windows-10.346140/
was successful:
RAVE Not Running Under Windows 10?
"Those of you who are now running Windows 10 and have all the latest updates including, specifically, version 2004 and later may find that RAVE with the inbuilt Adobe Acrobat v4 PDF reader will no longer run. This is because Acrobat v4 is an old timer and Windows 10 - the new kid on the block - has consigned it to be incompatible. On startup you will see a message of "The portable document format is not running" or similar. Windows 10 instructions to then try and resolve the issue will not work!

Don't panic - follow these simple steps and you will have RAVE up and running and back to rude health in no time:

In the RAVE folder:

A. Right click on AcroRd32.exe in the Acorbat4\Reader folder. Select "Properties" and then "Compatibility". Under "Compatibility Mode" check the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and from the drop down menu select "Windows 98 / Windows Me". Apply/OK all selections.

B. Right click on RAVE.exe in the appropriate folder. Select "Properties" and then "Compatibility". Under "Compatibility Mode" check the box for "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" and from the drop down menu select "Windows 98 / Windows Me". Apply/OK selections.

That's it."


So, now, after doing A. and B. above (on the files in the folder I copied to my file system, NOT the ones in the mounted ISO) I could just click on rave.exe and I had my RAVE back!

There were a number of 'this file cant be found' errors to 'OK' at the beginning, but then it was all there and working!

# 4. RAVE on Win 10 in Virtual Machine (VM) on Linux (OPTIONAL)
This is **optional** for anyone like me who wants to run RAVE on Linux (nearly, anyway!)

(i) Mount the ISO by double clicking it in PCManFM
(ii) Copy the folder to somewhere in the folder structure of the VM. If you put it somewhere else, for example on another partition or disk connected to the VM via a 'Guest Additions Shared Folder' , then step (iii) below wont do its magic (see Note below).
(iii) Change the compatibility properties as detailed for Win 10 in #3. above

BINGO!
In fact there were not even any of the 'this file cant be found' errors that I encuntered in the Dualboot Win 10 instance.

I am using ArchLabs Linux and PCManFM file manager & Oracle VirtualBox, but YMMV with other OS's and filemanager and VM apps, perhaps?

Note:

When trying to run rave.exe in Win 10 Virtual Machine (VM) on Linux, the compatibility settings above did not work, giving an 'The specified path does not exist' error.

From this post:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=80854#p379509

"FWIW, if you're trying to run the exe using a Guest Additions Shared Folder, know that Guest Additions Shared Folders are really just for file copying between the host and the guest, not for running programs, databases, etc. like a real shared folder can do."


My RAVE folder was on a NTFS partition which is a Guest Additions Shared Folder in the Win 10 VM

So, I copied the RAVE folder to the desktop of the VM (thus avoiding trying to run rave.exe from a Guest Additions Shared Folder), changed the compatibility properties A. & B. above, and BINGO!
Hi, thanks for this ,I downloaded Rave from here about 4yrs ago & still can't get it to work @kernowsvenski very kindly copied it to CD for me & I can't get that bleeder to work either (due to technology bypasso_O). So I will get my Daughter on the case tomorrow (if she's got time) with these instructions & let you know how the Royal 'we' get on, many thanks again.
 
@Andy Warren
the simple version is;

Install RAVE from the download or cd I sent,
After the install is complete, right click the RAVE icon that is now on your desktop and select "Properties"
then click on the "Compatibility" tab.
tick the "Run this program in compatibility mode" box.
select "Windows 98/windows ME" from the drop down menu
finally, click "Apply" at the bottom of the window. It should then run from the icon on your desktop.
 
@Andy Warren
the simple version is;

Install RAVE from the download or cd I sent,
After the install is complete, right click the RAVE icon that is now on your desktop and select "Properties"
then click on the "Compatibility" tab.
tick the "Run this program in compatibility mode" box.
select "Windows 98/windows ME" from the drop down menu
finally, click "Apply" at the bottom of the window. It should then run from the icon on your desktop.
YEEEE HAAAA, It works (cd version) & to think I've sat on it all that time:rolleyes::rolleyes:, just had a quick look at AC compressor removal as I hope to get a replacement in the next couple of days, happy as a pig in you know what:) thank you so much, all the best.
 
@Andy Warren
the simple version is;

Install RAVE from the download or cd I sent,
After the install is complete, right click the RAVE icon that is now on your desktop and select "Properties"
then click on the "Compatibility" tab.
tick the "Run this program in compatibility mode" box.
select "Windows 98/windows ME" from the drop down menu
finally, click "Apply" at the bottom of the window. It should then run from the icon on your desktop.

@kernowsvenski
Nice simple guide!
Did you just burn the iso to a CD, and then this CD installs rave to the disk of the computer when inserted and autorun?
 
I still can't get it to work even following these instructions. I get the desktop icon and every time I click on it the Acrobat 4 flash screen shows and then nothing other than another desktop icon.
 
I still can't get it to work even following these instructions. I get the desktop icon and every time I click on it the Acrobat 4 flash screen shows and then nothing other than another desktop icon.
Do the compatibility mode thing, worked for me on Win10. :)
 
I didn't, but I have now and it still makes no difference. The Tutorial works okay.
To try to find out why:
1. Where you have the files copied to?
2. Also, are you tried doing the compatibility thingy on the actual rave.exe file instead of the shortcut to it on the desktop?
3. It seems from the posts of @kernowsvenski and @Andy Warren above that its not always necessary, but have you also done the compatibility thingy on AcroRd32.exe in the Acorbat4\Reader folder as well?
4.
@GrumpyGel told me that sometimes people had to select compatibility with Win 8 instead of win 98 / win me
5. Have you got Win 10 all up to date?
Sorry for quickfire Q's - its how my brain is wired :D
 
To try to find out why:
1. Where you have the files copied to? A folder on the Desktop
2. Also, are you tried doing the compatibility thingy on the actual rave.exe file instead of the shortcut to it on the desktop? Yes
3. It seems from the posts of @kernowsvenski and @Andy Warren above that its not always necessary, but have you also done the compatibility thingy on AcroRd32.exe in the Acorbat4\Reader folder as well? Yes
4.
@GrumpyGel told me that sometimes people had to select compatibility with Win 8 instead of win 98 / win me I have now tried Windows 8 and Windows 7 as well, but still no joy. I had already tried Windows XP to no avail.
5. Have you got Win 10 all up to date? Yes, it has the very latest updates - Windows 10 Home version 21H1, OS build 19043.1889
Sorry for quickfire Q's - its how my brain is wired :D
See above in red. I appreciate your help.
 
I wouldn't mind betting the main reason why most people have problems following these steps to get Rave working on Win10 is because the Rave is on read-only media.

When mounting the ISO, this will almost certainly be re only. If its on a CD it will be read only.

When setting the compatibility Windows needs to save the setting - this won't be possible if the media is read only.

So, it must be on a writable 'disk' and you must have priviledges to write/save (hence references to running as Administrator I presume).

Also ensure the setting is made on both Rave.exe and AcroRd32.exe.
 
I wouldn't mind betting the main reason why most people have problems following these steps to get Rave working on Win10 is because the Rave is on read-only media.

When mounting the ISO, this will almost certainly be re only. If its on a CD it will be read only.

When setting the compatibility Windows needs to save the setting - this won't be possible if the media is read only.

So, it must be on a writable 'disk' and you must have priviledges to write/save (hence references to running as Administrator I presume).

Also ensure the setting is made on both Rave.exe and AcroRd32.exe.

That's what I was thinking, but @Keith_L 's answer to my question 1. above suggests he is changing the permissions of the file which is on the desktop, I think :D

@Keith_L : have you tried double clicking directly on the rave.exe file instead of on the shortcut?

and, you do mean that all the folders and files are on your desktop, not just the shortcut?

and, as soon as you boot up into windows, and go to privileges on the two files, are they still set to 'compatibility'?

I am on the below, but I dont think this is your problem

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 21H2
Installed on ‎09/‎05/‎2021
OS build 19044.1889
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4180.0

NB: I am no expert, just following this age-old mantra

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@GrumpyGel :I wonder how the iso works? Surely it shouldnt be rocket science to change it to embed a newer version of Reader?
 

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