brian47
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It doesn't matter what's done, the "anti-socials" will always find another method of spoiling your day. It's just in their nature.
biketeacherdave
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That would be the ideal situation but instead of doing that the dvsa introduce "following instructions from a sat nav for 20 mins of the driving test"
On a side note more people lost their license in the last 12 months than new drivers were issued one the 1st time thats ever happened since they started keeping records.
That would be a Moped. A sophisticated one but a Moped never the less.
Yes dalin', a 50cc moped ....
Not a 50cc or a moped .... my first bike was an AP50 .... bleddy fing ....
Did say there were not 50 cc Mopeds?
jamesmartin
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not on the ones we drove on this year
You implied that it was either a 50cc scoot or a ped .... rather than an item the had both traits ...
allan downes
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Yes but quickly is also mostly arrogant people. Tossers of drivers also who often dont .a look ahead and plan thier way. B dont concentrate and never indicate to tell other road users .and because you can go fast it does not mean your safe. .and you forgot one thing safe braking distances. The way people drive do not in thier fast vehicles.
A Moped, motor and pedals less than 50 cc which that will be, could be used on the road by the holder of a car licence. No need for a motorcycle licence or test. Anything over 50 cc, a motor scooter for instance, needed a motorcycle licence and test. Now stop being a pedant.
Not me who is quoting the Highway Code for Motorways is it ?
I don't know what they are now they may have changed, but that is what they used to be when motorways first came into being. And those were the rules at the time for Mopeds.
Though that does not apply to all parts of the U.K which is a bit daft, in N.I for example a learner or restricted driver cannot travel at more than 45 mph even on a motorway, which is dangerous, but not a fail in a driving test...
I thought you were all for keeping up with the changing regulations for mechanically propelled vehicles ... as they do change the wording occasionally ...
Dippy stop being a dick it doesn't suit you.
What did I do now ?
private penguin
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You do seem a little obsessed with speed. Yes speed is involved in a lot of accidents but its rarely the only cause.
I fully agree that we should pour more scorn onto general bad driving - but its possible to drive fast well. In fact, its often slower drivers that lack decent lane discipline, indicator use, etc.
It's not necessarily attitudes that need to change. I'm not going to be arrogant enough to judge my own driving, but i know plenty of people who drive fast, but who drive well. I feel far safer sat in the passenger seat of their car at well over the speed limit, than i did, for example, sat in the passenger seat of my ex wife's car - and she never broke speed limits. However, because she never broke speed limits, she'd get far too close to cars that were going a couple of miles an hour under the speed limit on the motorway before overtaking, then be stuck behind them waiting for a large enough gap to move out. I'd look ahead, move out when safe, and probably pass them at 80mph like most of the traffic in the middle / outside lanes.
I felt perfectly safe in the passenger seat of a late model defender TDCI doing well over the motorway speed limit. I'd have felt less safe in the 62mph speed limited vehicle that we gave up travelling in convoy with.
Stone56
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Well that's green landing for you
jamesmartin
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i was thinking more of some motor ways and main roads,tram lines with a rolled top
Stone56
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I think my license says I can drive a 175 without passenger
