Wavril · May 18, 2019

Hi folks,
Now that I'm living in a more urban area, I've realised that I'm absolutely frigging terrible at parallel parking my Defender 110! (Td5, 2002)
Whilst I continue to practice the art of not crashing into stuff, I'm thinking parking sensors would really help.
So I would very much appreciate some recommendations/advice from your good selves.
As I understand it, the metal bumpers on the Defender rule out lots of products.
Also, I'm doubting that my little cordless drill could cope with drilling through the bumpers (or are they quite easy to drill through?) So no-drill options would be favourite.
And of course...
Cheap! (Or as cheap as possible.) There seems to be a lot on eBay but don't know which would be best for my purposes.
Many thanks in advance.
& Best wishes
Wayne

backinblack · May 18, 2019

I put some cheap ones on my Disco 2, ok when it was dry but beeped all the time when they got wet. You get what you pay for.

Wavril · May 18, 2019

hmmm I agree that would be slightly less than useful sensors! Crashing into raindrops not being my immediate concern.

fucmeitsandy · May 18, 2019

A mirror at the back would be betterer if you are worried about scuffing your bumpers .
Or you could just learn to park !

Mcclegend · May 19, 2019

I put a reverse cameria on my 110. Ran (when had someone run) the cable inside the chassis in split tubing and mounded the camera in one of the cut outs in the bumper right by the tow bar.

mick 1986 · May 20, 2019

Mcclegend said:
I put a reverse cameria on my 110. Ran (when had someone run) the cable inside the chassis in split tubing and mounded the camera in one of the cut outs in the bumper right by the tow bar.

I would advise a camera too. I fitted one to my 110, not in the bumper but on the rear of the roof. I use a Nissan rear view camera connected to a 4” display mounted next to the radio. It works well when parking, but not so good when hitching the trailer on as the spare blocks the view.

Wavril · May 20, 2019

fucmeitsandy said:
A mirror at the back would be betterer if you are worried about scuffing your bumpers .
Or you could just learn to park !

Haha yes I will certainly carry on practicing!
A universal tailgate mirror would be good (like some camper vans have) but no universal ones seem to exist unless you're in India (which I'm not). I could maybe adapt one for a specific van (like Suzuki carry) but don't want to buy sthng that won't work. Good idea tho.

Wavril · May 20, 2019

Mcclegend said:
I put a reverse cameria on my 110. Ran (when had someone run) the cable inside the chassis in split tubing and mounded the camera in one of the cut outs in the bumper right by the tow bar.

I'll look into cameras. Is the wiring complicated?

Wavril · May 20, 2019

mick 1986 said:
I would advise a camera too. I fitted one to my 110, not in the bumper but on the rear of the roof. I use a Nissan rear view camera connected to a 4” display mounted next to the radio. It works well when parking, but not so good when hitching the trailer on as the spare blocks the view.

Seems like a camera might be the way forward....or rather backward....

mick 1986 · May 20, 2019

Wavril said:
I'll look into cameras. Is the wiring complicated?

Mine is powered by the reverse light circuit. I have one wire that goes to reverse light live, one wire to the earth point in the rear corner. These switched power wires go to the reverse camera and screen. The camera also has a 2 wire feed to the screen. Both pairs of wires are in a “single” wire that is a 6 core signal cable designed for CCTV systems.

Wavril · May 20, 2019

mick 1986 said:
Mine is powered by the reverse light circuit. I have one wire that goes to reverse light live, one wire to the earth point in the rear corner. These switched power wires go to the reverse camera and screen. The camera also has a 2 wire feed to the screen. Both pairs of wires are in a “single” wire that is a 6 core signal cable designed for CCTV systems.

Hmm doesn't sound too complex - so really just a connection to make to the reverse light positive & an earth?

mick 1986 · May 20, 2019

Wavril said:
Hmm doesn't sound too complex - so really just a connection to make to the reverse light positive & an earth?

Yes. If you get a wireless system, there will need to be connections at both ends, but wired can be done at one end.

Wavril · May 20, 2019

mick 1986 said:
Yes. If you get a wireless system, there will need to be connections at both ends, but wired can be done at one end.

Nice one, thanks, I'll get one of those.
Many thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply.

Mcclegend · May 20, 2019

Amazon product

Mine was powered from the radio with one of these cables. Soon as I put it into reverse the camera powered up.

I didn’t have a separate screen mine displayed on the radio screen.

Mcclegend · May 20, 2019

Wavril · May 21, 2019

Mcclegend said:

Yay! Really handy. Looks eminently do-able....even by me! Now to shopping! Thanks loads.

Actually looks like many are cheaper than cost of a tailgate mirror and defo less that paying for sensors to be fitted (don't fancy doing for myself the bumper drilling or more complicated wiring of sensors... I'll just have to practice with cones judging front angles!.)
Thanks again to everyone.

Wavril · May 22, 2019

Just two final questions folks, if you would be so kind.....
1) sorry if this is a silly question, but does it matter which way up the camera is mounted? I.e, bracket uppermost or bracket at bottom? In other words, will the device auto-rotate the image, no matter the orientation of the camera?
And
2) what's the easiest place to access the wiring to the reversing light? Everything seems to be encased by body panels or awkwardly behind stuff!
Thanks folks.

mick 1986 · May 22, 2019

Wavril said:
Just two final questions folks, if you would be so kind.....
1) sorry if this is a silly question, but does it matter which way up the camera is mounted? I.e, bracket uppermost or bracket at bottom? In other words, will the device auto-rotate the image, no matter the orientation of the camera?
And
2) what's the easiest place to access the wiring to the reversing light? Everything seems to be encased by body panels or awkwardly behind stuff!
Thanks folks.

My camera can mount either way up, so it didn’t make a difference to my setup. My monitor is mounted upside down, but has a ball joint on the back, so can rotate 180degrees. Yours may not be the same.

Wiring is best located on the drivers side, inside the rear tub, behind the small triangle shaped body panel.

Mcclegend · May 22, 2019

My camera did not rotate or anything it had to make sure it was the right way up before fitting, mine had actually had top embossed on the camera. I would test it all works before you start fitting.

Wavril · May 22, 2019

Nice one. Many thanks for all your help folks.

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