wammers · Jul 17, 2014

Datatek said:
You might be surprised at the amount of **** it strips out then. Next village to us has a bio diesel refinery using oil seed rape (Colza), sadly it is illegal to use it in private vehicles here so almost all is shipped to Germany. Buses have a derogation in some places allowing use.

Nearest genuine commercial bio diesel pump to me is 25 miles away, sort of makes it unviable to go there for it. If there was one nearer would use it. The government won't push it's development and widen it's availability because it would lose to much money on fuel tax. I am surprised the greenies are not pushing it to be honest. Maybe they have another agenda.

NikTheGeek · Jul 17, 2014

Rachelkgr said:
Can you just put bio diesel in without any mods or setups?

Correct.

However, it is cleaner so it's like running with redex. Advice is to change fuel filter after several tanks of bio as it can remove sludge from your tank and pipes that then clog your filter. But TBH, it depends on the state of the fuel system in the first place.

Once running on bio, the engine will run cleaner, the injectors will clean (if they were clogged) and you get better engine life.

However, there is always a down side. It is about 10% less efficient. So factor that in to the cost. At £1.35 a litre for dino, you'd want to be paying £1.22 a litre just to break even. Any cheaper and it becomes a saving. Of course, even if you aren't saving much, you are still running cleaner.

Nik

Datatek · Jul 17, 2014

wammers said:
Nearest genuine commercial bio diesel pump to me is 25 miles away, sort of makes it unviable to go there for it. If there was one nearer would use it. The government won't push it's development and widen it's availability because it would lose to much money on fuel tax. I am surprised the greenies are not pushing it to be honest. Maybe they have another agenda.

The big problem with bio diesel is that it diverts farming from growing food crops to growing oil crops. Virtually no food grains grown round my place now, all for animal feed or bio fuel. I suspect that is why it's not being pushed.

NikTheGeek · Jul 17, 2014

Datatek said:
The big problem with bio diesel is that it diverts farming from growing food crops to growing oil crops. Virtually no food grains grown round my place now, all for animal feed or bio fuel. I suspect that is why it's not being pushed.

I also read that there are major problems with some implementations of DPF's and how they regenerate as bio burns at a different temp...

wammers · Jul 17, 2014

Datatek said:
The big problem with bio diesel is that it diverts farming from growing food crops to growing oil crops. Virtually no food grains grown round my place now, all for animal feed or bio fuel. I suspect that is why it's not being pushed.

The EU have been paying farmers here and in Europe not to grow wheat for years. Let them grow oil seed rape and stop paying them for doing nothing.

Datatek · Jul 17, 2014

wammers said:
The EU have been paying farmers here and in Europe not to grow wheat for years. Let them grow oil seed rape and stop paying them for doing nothing.

Set aside stopped some time ago. There has been a shortage of Wheat.

wammers · Jul 17, 2014

Datatek said:
Set aside stopped some time ago. There has been a shortage of Wheat.

Stop growing flowers and grow something useful then.

Datatek · Jul 17, 2014

wammers said:
Stop growing flowers and grow something useful then.

Set aside had it's uses, it helped wildlife considerably.

wammers · Jul 17, 2014

Datatek said:
Set aside had it's uses, it helped wildlife considerably.

Can you make bio diesel out of Rabbits?

Datatek · Jul 17, 2014

wammers said:
Can you make bio diesel out of Rabbits?

Probably, animal fat can be turned into fuel

They are good to eat too

NikTheGeek · Jul 17, 2014

wammers said:
Can you make bio diesel out of Rabbits?

No, but you can make nice slippers and gloves out of them

flossdog · Jul 18, 2014

wammers said:
Not our fault you bought a knackered diesel is it. By the way your trip computer is broken.

Indeed it isnt...but it seems I bought 3 knackered diesels and all of my friends who bought them did the same...;-) I have never used a trip computer to calculate MPG.....brim to brim...thats what it did and is doing. Im driving VERY gently though....more down to the state of the roads than my being tight.

Rachelkgr · Jul 18, 2014

Thanks Chaps. Good advice as ever.

Fergie46 · Jul 19, 2014

TCubed said:
I never really found this to be a problem when I had mine, that said I do drive quite slowly but who cares? It's a Range Rover it's supposed to delightfully waft from place to place in luxury and comfort, which the diesel does just fine

And yes it sounds a tad canal boaty on the way, but it's still a better sound than the "beep beep beep" of the recovery truck reversing

Had both, diesel manual and now 4.6.

For me, Rangies were made for the V8 mill right from the get go and they only started with oil burners to grab some more of the market.

With the diesel technology we have these days, we have the best of both worlds, strong performance and fuel consumption that doesn't make your eyes bleed.

P38 diesel diehards may not hear so often the beep, beep, of the reversing tow truck but then they drive something that sounds like a tow truck all the time, arf, arf.

Me? I'm well sad - looking forward to shopping downtown so I can burble around the concrete canyons of the multi-storey car park.

Anyway, moving on - may I presume that because mine had a short engine fitted in the early 2000's I should be OK for the dreaded liner slip issue?

Opinions appreciated, over and out.

Datatek · Jul 19, 2014

Fergie46 said:
Had both, diesel manual and now 4.6.

For me, Rangies were made for the V8 mill right from the get go and they only started with oil burners to grab some more of the market.

With the diesel technology we have these days, we have the best of both worlds, strong performance and fuel consumption that doesn't make your eyes bleed.

P38 diesel diehards may not hear so often the beep, beep, of the reversing tow truck but then they drive something that sounds like a tow truck all the time, arf, arf.

Me? I'm well sad - looking forward to shopping downtown so I can burble around the concrete canyons of the multi-storey car park.

Anyway, moving on - may I presume that because mine had a short engine fitted in the early 2000's I should be OK for the dreaded liner slip issue?

Opinions appreciated, over and out.

A short engine is no guarantee unless it had top hat liners

martynv8 · Jul 19, 2014

Datatek said:
A short engine is no guarantee unless it had top hat liners

+1 a replacement short engine has every chance of failure as an original block. Top hatted blocks are the only solution.

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