+1 Would like one of them too!! want a decent rack for Snowboards in winter and a roof tent in Summer!!
I believe he said it is a L322 roof rack, chopped to fit the P38.
Did see that - been on the bay of 'e' and they are just as rare as genuine P38 ones lol
+1 Would like one of them too!! want a decent rack for Snowboards in winter and a roof tent in Summer!!
What is it you are after?It's a bit annoying that i can't get any off road kit for my P38, i've started to think up a few ideas and have put some down on paper.
At least with nothing available i've got to make anything i want myself, it will keep me occupied and will probably be cheaper so it's not too bad
I don't agree with that. The fact that it ended up being almost exclusively a shopping trolley is no reflection on the car, just the people that bought it. Yes it was designed to have better on road manners than its predecessors but its still a live axled, ladder framed chassis car. The only reason for live axles is for off road ruggedness. No one in their right mind would design an on-road car with that chassis set up. I've said it time and again, out of the box its better off road than a defender 110 or a pre soft dash RRC/discovery. It has better ground clearance, traction and axle articulation than either. On the down side its bloody heavy. Of coarse a tricked out disco or 90 is going to be better but not as standard.
I'll take my disco. Only mods are cb abar and MT tyres. You take the p38 and lets see who gets stuck first, and I would never try and boast my disco could out perform the standard defender.
A P38 at offroad height has more ground clearance than an early Disco - I don't see why you think they're going to be such a disaster off road. they don't like water (electronics) other than that they are very capable off road.
The L322 did give the Defender a quick battering in an off road test held by a well known magazine when it was launched way back when....Not sure how exacting the test criteria was (and the mag isn't known for being super accurate admittedly), but even so, a Range Rover will give a Deffie a good run for its money!LR themselves state the defender is offroad with on road ability. Disco is a half breed a bastard of on and off road skills. The range rover is a road going vehicle that is capable at moderate offroad! Not saying they are ****e offroad but a standard defender vs a standard range rover it would be no contest!!
Aslong as good Off Road prep is done, the door seals are in good form and are suitable lubed with a dose of Petroleum Jelly (Vaseline basically) and the engine bay is prepped well enough, the P38 will wade to its book value quite happily.Surely the fact that a p38 and water don't go well together, means the defender is more off road?
I certainly would think twice about a deep water crossing...
LR themselves state the defender is offroad with on road ability. Disco is a half breed a bastard of on and off road skills. The range rover is a road going vehicle that is capable at moderate offroad! Not saying they are ****e offroad but a standard defender vs a standard range rover it would be no contest!!
Surely the fact that a p38 and water don't go well together, means the defender is more off road?
I certainly would think twice about a deep water crossing...
Most Discos are rebodied Range Rovers with some of the posh kit removed, why would they be better off road? Of course it went round in a complete circle and the Range Rover sport was based on the first (non Range Rover) based Disco. The L322 and the L405 Range rovers have the best wheel articulation of any road going production vehicle.
Early range rovers. And the discovery was to replace the classic so the p38 could go much more road bias to compete with the new suv class that the classic started. But they are all land rovers and would destroy a jeep offroad so why do we need to argue?
Don't think that's true. The major selling point of the Range Rover has always been it's off road ability. It has always been advertised as such - it would be disastrous for LR's reputation to dumb down their flagship.
My understanding was that the Disco was introduced to tap into the new shopping trolley/school run market for which the RR was perceived to be too expensive compared to the new Japanese competition. The fact that it was actually adequate off road was an accident of it's origins rather than a particular intention...