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Hi I have a p38 manual year 1996 drivers door, central locking, mirror and window do not work. I have just put a new battery on and have got key lockout on dash, have tried to re code but wondered if would not work as central locking not working.
Any help would be much appreciated.
 
Are you offering to send me the door? If not you have to wait until the lockout message clears,can take a while, memory gone but its 20 to 30 mins i think you will then have 3 new attempts yo enter the EKA code but if you open the door after 2 attempts then you won't get the lockout message.
 
Can be bit fiddly to get the knack give it few tries.
If door lock microswitch has gone it won’t receive your input correctly.
 
If you keep trying while that message is there then it will lock itself down completely. The wait time gets longer with each attempt.

Door trick should work if door ajar switch in latch is syoll working.
 
Thanks ,yes the side indicators are not lighting which I think are supposed to so I'm thinking it's not receiving.

You might be able to short the wires if you can get the door card off. Or @martyuk does superior refurbed latches at a very reasonable price.
 
Thanks ,yes the side indicators are not lighting which I think are supposed to so I'm thinking it's not receiving.
Side-repeaters are not the only option, there is a setting in the BeCM for EITHER Side-Repeaters OR the dash alarm light. So, check if that is blinking.
Failed drivers door Microswitches is indeed the usual culprit. Have you had any "ghost" cycling of the doorlocks while travelling recently?

You have to be very precise with the EKA entry, it is pretty sensitive to fumble-fingered-fcuk-ups.
If you think you have screwed it all up at any point, open the door and close it and start all over again. Then you don't trip the 30/60/90 minute penalty timer.

Start.....key turned to locked & back to vertical four times. <<Tells the BecM you are now going to enter the EKA Code>
Then <1st digit> entered in the unlocked (clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <2nd> digit entered in the locked (anti-clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <3rd> digit entered in the unlocked (clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <4th> digit entered in the locked (anti-clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Finally, Turn once to unlocked and all the doors should unlock and the car "should" be re-mobilised.
It is very important to make sure you deliberately and carefully execute each key-turn AND back to vertical (and no further).
The doorlock contacts do go dodgy with age & use.
The flashing of the side-repeaters or the dashboard lamp (depending on how the system was set up) are your only indications that your entries are being seen.
If they are not consistently being seen then you will need a Nanocom to re-mobilise the engine.

Where in "Essex" are you?
 
Side-repeaters are not the only option, there is a setting in the BeCM for EITHER Side-Repeaters OR the dash alarm light. So, check if that is blinking.
Failed drivers door Microswitches is indeed the usual culprit. Have you had any "ghost" cycling of the doorlocks while travelling recently?

You have to be very precise with the EKA entry, it is pretty sensitive to fumble-fingered-fcuk-ups.
If you think you have screwed it all up at any point, open the door and close it and start all over again. Then you don't trip the 30/60/90 minute penalty timer.

Start.....key turned to locked & back to vertical four times. <<Tells the BecM you are now going to enter the EKA Code>
Then <1st digit> entered in the unlocked (clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <2nd> digit entered in the locked (anti-clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <3rd> digit entered in the unlocked (clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <4th> digit entered in the locked (anti-clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Finally, Turn once to unlocked and all the doors should unlock and the car "should" be re-mobilised.
It is very important to make sure you deliberately and carefully execute each key-turn AND back to vertical (and no further).
The doorlock contacts do go dodgy with age & use.
The flashing of the side-repeaters or the dashboard lamp (depending on how the system was set up) are your only indications that your entries are being seen.
If they are not consistently being seen then you will need a Nanocom to re-mobilise the engine.

Where in "Essex" are you?
Side-repeaters are not the only option, there is a setting in the BeCM for EITHER Side-Repeaters OR the dash alarm light. So, check if that is blinking.
Failed drivers door Microswitches is indeed the usual culprit. Have you had any "ghost" cycling of the doorlocks while travelling recently?

You have to be very precise with the EKA entry, it is pretty sensitive to fumble-fingered-fcuk-ups.
If you think you have screwed it all up at any point, open the door and close it and start all over again. Then you don't trip the 30/60/90 minute penalty timer.

Start.....key turned to locked & back to vertical four times. <<Tells the BecM you are now going to enter the EKA Code>
Then <1st digit> entered in the unlocked (clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <2nd> digit entered in the locked (anti-clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <3rd> digit entered in the unlocked (clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Then <4th> digit entered in the locked (anti-clockwise) direction and back to vertical for each time.
Finally, Turn once to unlocked and all the doors should unlock and the car "should" be re-mobilised.
It is very important to make sure you deliberately and carefully execute each key-turn AND back to vertical (and no further).
The doorlock contacts do go dodgy with age & use.
The flashing of the side-repeaters or the dashboard lamp (depending on how the system was set up) are your only indications that your entries are being seen.
If they are not consistently being seen then you will need a Nanocom to re-mobilise the engine.

Where in "Essex" are you?
Thanks for your advice I am in colchester
 
If you had nothing working in the drivers door BEFORE this happened, then skip trying to enter the EKA for the moment, and get looking at the connectors in the A pillar (body side) where the door wiring loom connects to the vehicle wiring. They are known to corrode (as do the ones in behind the kick panel, but the door wiring doesn't go through them).

NOTHING working in the drivers door is a sign of broken comms between the BECM and the door outstation. There are some serial wires that go between the 2, which have also been known to break in the wiring loom under the plastic sill trim, but the connectors in the A pillar are also culprits.

The door latch communicates via the microswitches to the BECM, through the outstation. If the outstation doesn't have 12V (Purple/Black wire is outstation feed, Purple/Blue is also 12V but just for the window motor), ground, or there's a break in one of the serial link wires to the BECM (off the top of my head, they're Red, Orange, and Light Green), then you can try entering the EKA as many times as you like - but the switch inputs won't be transmitted. If all the wiring checks out, then it *could* be the outstation that's faulty - they don't fail often though - it's more likely in my experience to be a bad connection or a broken wire. If wiring checks out, you can swap the outstation from the LHF door to the RHF to check that - they are identical.

Once you have the door communications sorted, then as others have said, you have to wait for KEYCODE LOCKOUT to disappear from the dash BEFORE trying to enter the EKA.

Hope this helps,
Marty
 
If you had nothing working in the drivers door BEFORE this happened, then skip trying to enter the EKA for the moment, and get looking at the connectors in the A pillar (body side) where the door wiring loom connects to the vehicle wiring. They are known to corrode (as do the ones in behind the kick panel, but the door wiring doesn't go through them).

NOTHING working in the drivers door is a sign of broken comms between the BECM and the door outstation. There are some serial wires that go between the 2, which have also been known to break in the wiring loom under the plastic sill trim, but the connectors in the A pillar are also culprits.

The door latch communicates via the microswitches to the BECM, through the outstation. If the outstation doesn't have 12V (Purple/Black wire is outstation feed, Purple/Blue is also 12V but just for the window motor), ground, or there's a break in one of the serial link wires to the BECM (off the top of my head, they're Red, Orange, and Light Green), then you can try entering the EKA as many times as you like - but the switch inputs won't be transmitted. If all the wiring checks out, then it *could* be the outstation that's faulty - they don't fail often though - it's more likely in my experience to be a bad connection or a broken wire. If wiring checks out, you can swap the outstation from the LHF door to the RHF to check that - they are identical.

Once you have the door communications sorted, then as others have said, you have to wait for KEYCODE LOCKOUT to disappear from the dash BEFORE trying to enter the EKA.

Hope this helps,
Marty
Thanks for your time this makes more sense to me, I have checked some connections but think I need to start again as I would like to get drivers window working again anyway. Many thanks.
 
If you had nothing working in the drivers door BEFORE this happened, then skip trying to enter the EKA for the moment, and get looking at the connectors in the A pillar (body side) where the door wiring loom connects to the vehicle wiring. They are known to corrode (as do the ones in behind the kick panel, but the door wiring doesn't go through them).

NOTHING working in the drivers door is a sign of broken comms between the BECM and the door outstation. There are some serial wires that go between the 2, which have also been known to break in the wiring loom under the plastic sill trim, but the connectors in the A pillar are also culprits.

The door latch communicates via the microswitches to the BECM, through the outstation. If the outstation doesn't have 12V (Purple/Black wire is outstation feed, Purple/Blue is also 12V but just for the window motor), ground, or there's a break in one of the serial link wires to the BECM (off the top of my head, they're Red, Orange, and Light Green), then you can try entering the EKA as many times as you like - but the switch inputs won't be transmitted. If all the wiring checks out, then it *could* be the outstation that's faulty - they don't fail often though - it's more likely in my experience to be a bad connection or a broken wire. If wiring checks out, you can swap the outstation from the LHF door to the RHF to check that - they are identical.

Once you have the door communications sorted, then as others have said, you have to wait for KEYCODE LOCKOUT to disappear from the dash BEFORE trying to enter the EKA.

Hope this helps,
Marty
Hi Marty just to let you know checked power to outstation, all ok changed outstation for passenger side. Window then worked put in the Eka keycode , worked first time . Thanks so much for your time and knowledge I thought this was going to be off the road for some time. Thanks for everyone else's advice also. Cheers
 
So replacement outstation required, easy fix, thats the second one thats gone in a few months, Dopey`s drivers one packed up so his window would not work.
 
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So replacement outstation required, easy fix, thats the second one that gone in a few months Dopey`s drivers one packed up so his window would not work.

Window not working seems to be the common theme. Rarely hear of outstation failing and that's 2 in 2 months. All thay heat in Spring?

Well done Marty. Spot on again.
 

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