I have a 110 csw.

The rear (side) windows are close to useless for a variety of reasons. I'd rather they were not there.


I'm aware that 88" sides can be used to replace the whole panel with limited bother, but do I have any options for internal trim?

There were (I think) some factory 5 doors without the rear windows so I assume there's "somthing" about but what are my own options? (I'm thinking some part specific to an uncommon spec isn't going to turn up on the used market much)

Thank you.

You can get solid windows to replace or van sides. All just un bolts and bolts back together.

Mudstuff have interior trim

bankz5152 said:

You can get solid windows to replace or van sides. All just un bolts and bolts back together.

Mudstuff have interior trim

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Van sides are longer.

Im on about this config -




I think, maybe, its called "utility station wagon"?

Hmm... now ive found the name, i think ive found the part?


(etc)

Do you reckon thats the one?

Thank you.

The interior trim panels are available on eBay. I think Mud UK make and sell them.

julianf said:

Van sides are longer.

Im on about this config -

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I think, maybe, its called "utility station wagon"?

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Yeah still van sides or utility sides. You can buy them off ebay/breakers, usually around £400ish

Can often sell the csw set for similar

Not 100% sure if 90 tubs are the same as 110s

bankz5152 said:

Yeah still van sides or utility sides. You can buy them off ebay/breakers, usually around £400ish

Can often sell the csw set for similar

Not 100% sure if 90 tubs are the same as 110s

Land Rover Defender Tdci Puma 90 Rear Side Panels Td5 | eBay

<p>Defender 90 tdci rear side panels in Stornaway grey do have some dents that are highlighted on the pictures </p>

www.ebay.co.uk

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The internet seems to think that 88 series sides are what I need. You have to remove a bit by the door that I think is, maybe, spot welded or something (ie fairly easy surgery).

There are nice looking pairs on eBay (buy it now) for £120 ish, and rougher ones for less than a ton, but, sadly, not within range for me.

I'll bide my time and a set will come around locally.

Now that I know I can get the trim for them I'm pretty sure it's a change I'm wanting to make.

Thank you.

julianf said:

Van sides are longer.

Im on about this config -

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I think, maybe, its called "utility station wagon"?

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That looks nice.

lynall said:

That looks nice.

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I think (maybe) the render is off the jaguar landrover site. All those shaded renders there make them look smarter than they ever seem to in reality!

bankz5152 said:

Not 100% sure if 90 tubs are the same as 110s

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julianf said:

The internet seems to think that 88 series sides are what I need.

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90 and 110 are not the same. It is the 88 that is needed to make a the utility station Wagon. It is a route I am Contemplating going down with mine when I swap the station wagon body onto mine. @julianf why are the rear windows useless? I currently have a hard top with twin windows so I am used to vision the whole length and having driven 90/110 van know how limiting vision is with nothing.

julianf said:

You have to remove a bit by the door that I think is, maybe, spot welded or something (ie fairly easy surgery).

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I was not aware of that could you be more specific? I was under the impression it was just a straight swap unbolt the old one bolt the new one in as they are the same panel just one has a window?

I would also question the need for trim panels at all especially if making it a utility. But I like bare panels that can be washed down and are less likely to Break than plastic pieces.

I removed the rear bench seats, so it's not like anyone needs the window open at the back.

I'm unsure of how much I use the visibility out of those windows when driving. I don't think I use them at all, but, maybe, I should put paper over them for a while, just to be sure, before committing?

The bit on the 88 sides is something to do with the door rubber, I think. But I've not done it, so all I'm doing is regurgitating poorly remembered internet reading. I am (virtually) certain that they are not "drop in" but I'm also equally as certain that the mod is not anything to be concerned about.

Plastic for insulation (sound and heat / condensation) but also to protect the sides from internal cargo. I realize this may result in the plastic getting trashed but I'd rather that than a load of little dents and lines in the panels, visible from the outside.

I often chuck in pallets, for example. They currently wobble about and whack into the windows when I go around a corner (etc).

Sure I could fill the back with expanding foam every time, but I'm for an easy life. Dog guard (that I have but not currently fitted) will stop flow from the rear to the front, so I just want to stop the windows rattling / getting broken etc at the back.


Maussai (spelling) so fixed (non opening) windows, but there still vulnerable and are also about 400 notes. Or I could just get glass cut and toughened and fit to the sides directly (sale as the alpines or rear quarters) but the series sides are cheap enough, neater, and probably less effort.


I actually wanted a 110 high cap. The station wagon was a compromise with my partner, but is currently a "jack of all, master of none".

I've got my eye out for a suitable replacement for myself (in which case I'll "car-ise" the 110 csw for my partner, and just haul junk about in the high cap) but, as a stop gap, I think I'll "utility wagon" it.

Have you considered the mesh guards? I think they are easy enough to fit and you could possibly get some second hand.

Also consider that whilst you may not look out of the windows much, they let the light in which is useful when loading/unloading.

julianf said:

The bit on the 88 sides is something to do with the door rubber, I think.

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If it is for the door rubber then that will be the difference between the series style riveted door seals and the later press on ones. The series riveted ones have a right angle lip where at the later press on seal needs a flat lip. I modified my series to take the layer one pice seals by just carefully cutting that lip off. But I will do some more research.

I am a long way off fitting as I need to refund the station wagon body and then swap that onto mine before I can even think about different sides. I am also in two minds about needing them as my most regular cargo is the dog. Who does like to hang his head out the side in the wind.

Dr Strangeglove said:

Have you considered the mesh guards? I think they are easy enough to fit and you could possibly get some second hand.

Also consider that whilst you may not look out of the windows much, they let the light in which is useful when loading/unloading.

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I thought the mesh guards were always designed to go on the outside of the windows (for break ins, animals etc) rather than on the inside (to stop internal stuff breaking the windows)?

Am I wrong?

My windows are also rattly moss covered things, so I wouldn't be sad that all that was gone also.

As I say maussai (spelling) do fixed ones but at £400 ish, I just know it will never get to the top of the "oh, I've got a spare £400 to spend on the defender - what's the most pressing thing to do" list!

julianf said:

I thought the mesh guards were always designed to go on the outside of the windows (for break ins, animals etc) rather than on the inside (to stop internal stuff breaking the windows)?

Am I wrong?

My windows are also rattly moss covered things, so I wouldn't be sad that all that was gone also.

As I say maussai (spelling) do fixed ones but at £400 ish, I just know it will never get to the top of the "oh, I've got a spare £400 to spend on the defender - what's the most pressing thing to do" list!

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I have some that fit inside (though not fitted yet) and I believe they fit without fixing through the sides. I think mine are powder coated steel (bought 2nd hand).