cvloenen

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Hi all,
I having difficulty finding out if the oil I should replace the engine with should be synethetic (semi-synthetic) or non synthetic. Its a P38 2.5 diesel.

Thanks Ian
 
I use Total 5W 40 full synthetic and change at 6K mile intervals. Others say it's a waste of money and use straight mineral with more frequent changes.
The actual spec is in RAVE.
 
The book says semi synthetic. Yet the main dealer where I bought my car from many years ago said they always use fully synthetic.
There is a theory that fully synthetic is for modern close tolerance engines where there is a bigger gap between services.
Also I've heard semi synthetic is better with hydraulic tappets.
I guess the jury is still out.
 
I would use a good semi synth. The engines dont require a full synth but it would do any harm if you use one. As said just check the spec and get something that meets it :)
 
Hi all, thanks for all the input. I will be trying a semi-synth, this is good because my wifes R megane also uses a semi-synth, I'll get a 25lt and use it for both.
Thanks Ian
 
Golden rule is "some oil" is better than "no oil" I use semi-synth and have no problems? although the same engine is used in BMW and they state Fully-Synth only??

Datatek - you must have money to burn?
 
Golden rule is "some oil" is better than "no oil" I use semi-synth and have no problems? although the same engine is used in BMW and they state Fully-Synth only??

Datatek - you must have money to burn?

At 5w 40 think he may also have moved to Alaska without telling anyone.:D:D
 
Golden rule is "some oil" is better than "no oil" I use semi-synth and have no problems? although the same engine is used in BMW and they state Fully-Synth only??

Datatek - you must have money to burn?

A) I want it to last, B) It's slightly more economical on diesel especially in the winter. They now do 0W40, that is expensive:eek:
 
I use cheap (30€ for 10l) semi-synthetic 5w40 and change it every 10k to 12k km. I just can not justify Castrol or something similarly priced to throw it away at this rate. Mind you, it's my daily driver, that means at least two and more likely three oil changes yearly.
 
I know - my OH her BMW uses 0-40 and needs toping up every 6k miles?? :mad:

I change it at 6k miles, never had to top up between changes, but with BMW quality control you never know. My 325i needed 5 litres of oil the go from Brighton to Birmingham. BMW reckoned that was within their limits:rolleyes:
 
I change it at 6k miles, never had to top up between changes, but with BMW quality control you never know. My 325i needed 5 litres of oil the go from Brighton to Birmingham. BMW reckoned that was within their limits:rolleyes:

it's a 135i M sport and again BMW say it's normal?? The last bmw I had was a 120D M sport and when new this used a lot of oil but after 16 months or so it stopped?? and hardly ever used a drop??
 
it's a 135i M sport and again BMW say it's normal?? The last bmw I had was a 120D M sport and when new this used a lot of oil but after 16 months or so it stopped?? and hardly ever used a drop??

BMW's attitude is that as long as it moves, everything is normal, especially while it's under warranty:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
I change it at 6k miles, never had to top up between changes, but with BMW quality control you never know. My 325i needed 5 litres of oil the go from Brighton to Birmingham. BMW reckoned that was within their limits:rolleyes:

If it was a 1997ish car it may have been one of the many thousands of cars with the bores honed incorrectly (too deep) increasing oil consumption markedly - BMW were producing engines for over a year with the honing machines set incorrectly. Did they admit it? Did they buggery. Mind you they changed a lot of engines where the oil consumption was bad enough to cause visible smoke or fail an MOT through high HCs.
 
I use cheap (30€ for 10l) semi-synthetic 5w40 and change it every 10k to 12k km. I just can not justify Castrol or something similarly priced to throw it away at this rate. Mind you, it's my daily driver, that means at least two and more likely three oil changes yearly.

Castrol oil is a con, all their oil is semi-synth - they got the rules changed as to what they can call fully-synth coz they're rich! Castrol oil is no better than any other average semi-synth. Marketing above contents! Perfectly good stuff if you can buy it cheap on offer - other than that, don't bother.
 
If it was a 1997ish car it may have been one of the many thousands of cars with the bores honed incorrectly (too deep) increasing oil consumption markedly - BMW were producing engines for over a year with the honing machines set incorrectly. Did they admit it? Did they buggery. Mind you they changed a lot of engines where the oil consumption was bad enough to cause visible smoke or fail an MOT through high HCs.


2007 Car they didn't make the 1 series in 1997 :p
 
Castrol oil is a con, all their oil is semi-synth - they got the rules changed as to what they can call fully-synth coz they're rich! Castrol oil is no better than any other average semi-synth. Marketing above contents! Perfectly good stuff if you can buy it cheap on offer - other than that, don't bother.


You are talking about the old Magnatec. All current Castrol synthetics are exactly that :) Although technically no synthetic is a true synthetic unless its Ester based as all the others start live as a hydrocracked mineral oil. They are however so far away from being an actual mineral or semi synth they can be classed as being totally synthetic. :)
 
If it was a 1997ish car it may have been one of the many thousands of cars with the bores honed incorrectly (too deep) increasing oil consumption markedly - BMW were producing engines for over a year with the honing machines set incorrectly. Did they admit it? Did they buggery. Mind you they changed a lot of engines where the oil consumption was bad enough to cause visible smoke or fail an MOT through high HCs.


Haven't heard that one, but know they did have lots of problems with some sort of liner coating that broke up stuffing the engine in the 90s. You can't set an honing machine too deep, but you can have the wrong stones in it. Don't know where you got that one from.
 
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