Nodge68
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Changing the oil isn't any work, so you'll not be saving much. These extractors don't get all the oil and sludge out, which makes them pretty pointless IMO.
GrumpyGel
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That's my 6 monthly gym/yoga work out - keeps me fit and healthy.
julianf
Well-Known Member
Can you 100% confirm that you've taken the sump plug out to check, after using an extractor sensibly?
tlo
Active Member
My son in law sorted it out when it went in for a new head gasket got a new one in now
julianf
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So, you have not tried taking the sump plug out after sensibly using an extractor?
How do you know that -
I mean, im not trying to disagree, but i hear that banded about so much, but the only way anyone would know that is if you have done what i asked. It seems you have not, so how do you know what you are claiming?
tlo
Active Member
No mate it was done when the car went in for other work I don't know how he got it out
1988smithy
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I think that's fine as long as you're changing oil regularly, maybe drop it from the sump plug every 3rd or 4th oil change.
I did see a yank on you-Tube showing a demo of a standard "plug-out" change and then he dropped the pan and showed a quantity of oil still left in there because the thickness of the sump plug wall was higher than the surrounding pan. I recall that he illustrated that the pump-out method removed virtually all of the oil. Selling Pumps? Maybe.
Nodge68
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I've tested the extractor I used by removing the sump plug after it had finished sucking the oil. The extractor left about a litre of oil in the sump, most of which was sludge. The only reason I actually removed the plug in the first place, was the pump extracted less oil than I was expecting to see in the container.
This is unacceptable and pointless IMO. However it's your vehicle, so you can take whatever shortcuts you like with it.
An extractor is cleaner and less work on a Freelander, but if it's only doing 3/4 of the job, then it's falling short of requirements.
Nodge68
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You have, although on a TD4, it's accessed from the top. All other engines require the sump guard to be removed to access the filter.
Not really, unless you're venturing off road. It's not a strong item, but it does provide a degree of protection from objects hitting the sump and other vulnerable areas. On the road it helps keep the underside of the engine bay clean, but not much else.
I personally don't see what the issue is with it. It takes under 10 minutes to remove or refit, so I prefer to keep it in place.
