Thanks, I'll look into all of these but there will be no avoiding the big-brother databases going forward. If you have ever ended up on one of these through no fault of your own (number plate cloning) it is almost impossible to get your (or the cars) name cleared. The 1st challenge I had from the insurer was them saying I had not declared an historic loss - took me ages to find out who my insurer was at the time and get them to confirm that the database entry was bogus and the result of fraudulent activity by others - I have a letter now to say its not right ….. but there's no way of getting the database changed! - we are just numbers. Anyway ….. looks like I have a big collection of bits to sell and reuse.