oden · Jan 4, 2016

Hi all,

I've had a look around and haven't found anyone else with a similar story so any help would be great on this one:
2004 TD4E
Drove though a Ford crossing and got a lung full of water!!! Car sputter and died just after getting out of the water, wouldn't start at first then came back to life and idles fine but only does low speeds at full throttle though all the gears and struggling to make it to 30mph.... Also smokes a bit!
Absolutely My fault! and kicking myself......
Its got a newish full pump so can rule that out... hoses are fine/not split and I removed the air filter and found evidence of water, I've also done the EGR delete.. I had no codes reported from my cheopo OBD Bluetooth adapter and am struggling where to go next, any input would be great...
(btw got a stinker of a cold so please excuse the typos!)

flat · Jan 4, 2016

its sucked in water and something internal is ****ed. will need taking apart to find out what

4x4Dog · Jan 4, 2016

Check the turbo solenoid vent filter (looks like an old-school fuel filter). It should be near the top of the engine but can fall down. If that fills with water, you get those symptoms.

4x4Dog · Jan 4, 2016

This one...

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

wonder if maf is shorted out and cant read air flow

wammers · Jan 4, 2016

freelanderoig said:
wonder if maf is shorted out and cant read air flow

If EGR is disabled why would MAF need to read air flow. Inlet air temp maybe tits up though.

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

wammers said:
If EGR is disabled why would MAF need to read air flow. Inlet air temp maybe tits up though.

i was on right track ..sort off...sound as if some sensor has got shorted sounds bit like ..limp mode...what sensor causes limp mode ..maybe a diagnostics way to go

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

heres a thought ..what if lamba sensor is waterlogged...that controlls or sends info to ecu..so if ecu thinks engine stone cold it will over rich mixture..crap running

wammers · Jan 4, 2016

freelanderoig said:
i was on right track ..sort off...sound as if some sensor has got shorted sounds bit like ..limp mode...what sensor causes limp mode ..maybe a diagnostics way to go

Diag would be good guessing is futile.

wammers · Jan 4, 2016

freelanderoig said:
heres a thought ..what if lamba sensor is waterlogged...that controlls or sends info to ecu..

Why would a diesel have a LAMBDA sensor?

NoDosh · Jan 4, 2016

If the air filter is wet it's not going to let much air through, which will give the symptoms you have. I'd start with a new filter. You may still get lack of power low down if the MAF has been fouled, but start with the basics.

inishowenfreelander1 · Jan 4, 2016

Aye start with the filter like the man above said.. Id say its the air flow meter.. Take it out and dry it spray some wd40 on it etc... Good luck with it anyway

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

wammers said:
Why would a diesel have a LAMBDA sensor?

cause they do
Diesel Lambda sensors
This super-fine control of mixture strength allows Lambda control to be possible for these common-rail systems, and from about 2005 onwards this has become the norm. Motivating all these innovations are EU emissions regulations, which are becoming ever more stringent for Diesel cars after an initial phase of being allowed to lag behind the equivalent petrol-engine regulations.

Diesels are by nature lean burn engines, so require a wideband lambda sensor that can detect A/F ratios over a very large range. Silicone compounds are added to diesel fuel to ease transportation and for their anti-foaming properties, which poisons the lambda sensor over time, but additional measures are taken in the design of diesel lambda sensors in order to combat or lessen this problem.

have i educated the great wammer.....do i get a medal..or will he prove me wrong

4x4Dog · Jan 4, 2016

TD4 Freelanders don't have a lambda sensor.

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

freelander 2 does
Land Freelander 2 Lambda Probes and Sensors

wammers · Jan 4, 2016

freelanderoig said:
cause they do
Diesel Lambda sensors
This super-fine control of mixture strength allows Lambda control to be possible for these common-rail systems, and from about 2005 onwards this has become the norm. Motivating all these innovations are EU emissions regulations, which are becoming ever more stringent for Diesel cars after an initial phase of being allowed to lag behind the equivalent petrol-engine regulations.

Diesels are by nature lean burn engines, so require a wideband lambda sensor that can detect A/F ratios over a very large range. Silicone compounds are added to diesel fuel to ease transportation and for their anti-foaming properties, which poisons the lambda sensor over time, but additional measures are taken in the design of diesel lambda sensors in order to combat or lessen this problem.

have i educated the great wammer.....do i get a medal..or will he prove me wrong

I will prove you wrong. And what vehicle are we talking about here? TD4s do not have Lambda sensors.

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

wammers said:
I will prove you wrong. And what vehicle are we talking about here? TD4s do not have Lambda sensors.

Land Freelander 2 Lambda Probes and Sensors....well these do

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

freelanderoig said:
Land Freelander 2 Lambda Probes and Sensors....well these do

http://www.parts.loc8apart.co.uk/nav/auto-part/Land/Freelander-2/Lambda-Probes-and-Sensors.php

freelanderoig · Jan 4, 2016

on the basis its an 04 td4..it may be a f2...i was only trying to point out ideas. but a diagnostics is only way

4x4Dog · Jan 4, 2016

The original poster said he has a 2004, that's not a Freelander 2. It does not have a lambda sensor.

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