Mel botterfield · Feb 27, 2018

can anyone tell me if vehicles that are not 40 years old becone mot exempt when they are or is it like tax exempt vehicles were only tax exempt if they were 25 years old when the change was announced but cars that eventually get to 25 years old never qualify to be exempt.

Discoslow · Feb 27, 2018

The Tax exemption is now a rolling exemption, so when a car reaches 25 years old it will be exempt. As far as I know the new MOT exemption will also be rolling, meaning that when cars reach 40 years old they will be MOT exempt.

blue beasty · Feb 27, 2018

Historic status for tax and coming mot exemption is for any vehicle 40 years old before 1st Jan of each rolling year.

Flossie · Feb 28, 2018

My tratters 40 in 2026.

Discoslow · Feb 28, 2018

blue beasty said:
Historic status for tax and coming mot exemption is for any vehicle 40 years old before 1st Jan of each rolling year.

Thanks for clarifying that Blue Beasty. I didn't know they had changed the Tax to be in line with the MOT - makes sense. I'll have to wait until 2030 for my D1 to be exempt!

norseman · Feb 28, 2018

Yes, the Tories stopped the original 25yr. rolling date years ago & then re-introduced it for 40yr.
30 years would have brought the UK into line with some European counties, but no we are British

Just for the record I disagree with MOT exemption anyway, I was happy with it applying to vehicles over 3500kg (probably because I owned WW2 trucks at the time) as the running costs/vehicle size precluded everyday usage, but not when it comes to cars that might be used as daily drivers.

DanClarke · Feb 28, 2018

Goodness, I shall be lucky to be "still running" in 2040.

dieseldog69 · Feb 28, 2018

norseman said:
Yes, the Tories stopped the original 25yr. rolling date years ago & then re-introduced it for 40yr.
30 years would have brought the UK into line with some European counties, but no we are British
Just for the record I disagree with MOT exemption anyway, I was happy with it applying to vehicles over 3500kg (probably because I owned WW2 trucks at the time) as the running costs/vehicle size precluded everyday usage, but not when it comes to cars that might be used as daily drivers.

I thought it was Ken Clark in 1995 when he was chancellor for Major who introduced the tax free status and it was halted by Brown was it not?

Belgium has a classic car status of 25yrs and up until 2013 so did Holland although they are now at 40yrs the same as us due to their rather extreme road tax costs it was deemed that 25yrs was too low and the government was losing too much money. I think although not 100% that Germany is 25yr classic status too but all vehicles over there pay road tax, just not so much and on top of that they face restrictions of use too, classic status denoted on registration plates.

suburban · Feb 28, 2018

yes LABOUR halted the rolling tax free status and the good old blues got it going again

norseman · Mar 1, 2018

I stand corrected on the party responsible for the rolling date issue, never was good on politics!
I think Germany classifies a 'historic vehicle' at 30 years & as for revenue loss I wouldn't have a problem paying an admin. fee for historic vehicles in the same way the Irish owners do. Lets face it the UK government is not going to lose out at the end of the day, illustrated by the VED rate changes introduced on April 1 this year where only totally emission-free (ie electric) cars don't pay & that's provided that they don't have a list price of over £40k. Others that used to be free due to low emissions (under 100g per whatsit) ae now paying £120/140 if registered after that date.

Nodge68 · Mar 2, 2018

blue beasty said:
Historic status for tax and coming mot exemption is for any vehicle 40 years old before 1st Jan of each rolling year.

Do you know when the 40 year MOT exemption is coming into effect? I've a 72 vehicle that's a work in progress. It would be lovely to MOT and tax it, even if it's not ready for the road.

blue beasty · Mar 2, 2018

Nodge68 said:
Do you know when the 40 year MOT exemption is coming into effect? I've a 72 vehicle that's a work in progress. It would be lovely to MOT and tax it, even if it's not ready for the road.

I think its in May when the new MOT regs come in but don't quote me.

norseman · Mar 2, 2018

Correct Blue B, the requirement to MOT eligible vehicles ends on the 20th.

discool · Mar 2, 2018

Nodge68 said:
Do you know when the 40 year MOT exemption is coming into effect? I've a 72 vehicle that's a work in progress. It would be lovely to MOT and tax it, even if it's not ready for the road.

Well I won't be MOT or taxing, but I will be applying for mot and tax exemption on the 20 May, hopefully first in the que at the post office

MJI · Mar 2, 2018

norseman said:
Yes, the Tories stopped the original 25yr. rolling date years ago & then re-introduced it for 40yr.
30 years would have brought the UK into line with some European counties, but no we are British
Just for the record I disagree with MOT exemption anyway, I was happy with it applying to vehicles over 3500kg (probably because I owned WW2 trucks at the time) as the running costs/vehicle size precluded everyday usage, but not when it comes to cars that might be used as daily drivers.

No, Blairs lot stopped it after Clarke introduced it.

MJI · Mar 2, 2018

The reasons for not MOTing older cars are a few.

1) Lack of knowleage on older vehicles.
2) Normally well maintained.
3) MOT moving from mainly safety to more emmisions based.

dieseldog69 · Mar 2, 2018

norseman said:
I stand corrected on the party responsible for the rolling date issue, never was good on politics!
I think Germany classifies a 'historic vehicle' at 30 years & as for revenue loss I wouldn't have a problem paying an admin. fee for historic vehicles in the same way the Irish owners do. Lets face it the UK government is not going to lose out at the end of the day, illustrated by the VED rate changes introduced on April 1 this year where only totally emission-free (ie electric) cars don't pay & that's provided that they don't have a list price of over £40k. Others that used to be free due to low emissions (under 100g per whatsit) ae now paying £120/140 if registered after that date.

Still, £140 is nothing in the grand scheme of things when you think a 300Tdi Disco would be €900/yr in Belgium, Germany and Ireland, €2,400 in Holland mind.

No vehicle should be on the road for less than £250 IMHO especially electric vehicles!

norseman · Mar 3, 2018

Coming from a vehicle owner & tax-payer your last comment is controversial to say the least

timka · May 4, 2018

discool said:
Well I won't be MOT or taxing, but I will be applying for mot and tax exemption on the 20 May, hopefully first in the que at the post office

Be aware, to be MOT exempt a 40 year old car from the 20th May 2018 the vehicle should have no modifications, a £2500 fine for a vehicle on the road if modified with no MOT.

discool · May 6, 2018

timka said:
Be aware, to be MOT exempt a 40 year old car from the 25th May 2018 the vehicle should have no modifications, a £2500 fine for a vehicle on the road if modified with no MOT.

I do know all of that, as an owner of a Ford Capri that I purchased back in 1976, I always purchased my vehicles new, it's a lot less trouble.
And its a May 20 not 24.

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