FREELAND2001 · Jan 28, 2017

Since no rise in the temp gauge, I had the thermostat changed yesterday. Even though the thermostat changed, I feel almost no difference in the temp gauge. I placed a cardboard in front of the radiator but still no quick rise as expected and no heat obviously...
Even the temp needle goes up to the midway in town traffic, still there is no heat in cabin other than warm air. So, do you have an idea what the reason is for not having adequate heat in the cabin? Would the heater core be a problem even if the temp gauge were rising up to the normal zone in town traffic or, could be air trapped in the system?

The Mad Hat Man · Jan 28, 2017

have you followed the precise Rave instructions?

did you bleed the jiggle valve?

FREELAND2001 · Jan 29, 2017

Thank you for the links...I have just downloaded the Raves and will look into those if I am able to see what's inside.
No jiggle valve evidence on the hose leading to the heater core... Please see the picture...

Nodge68 · Jan 29, 2017

The heater needs bleeding, using the bleed screw that is missing from the heater pipes

However the engine should be at full running temperature within a few miles. The V6 is known for being a hot running engine, not cold. I would suggest that there's some kind of problem with the cooling system. Or someone has added a booster radiator in the circuit?
Looking at the mess of the breather pipework, anything is possible.
Oh and there's no juggle valve on the V6.

teddywood1 · Jan 29, 2017

leave you header tank cap of for a couple of days while you are driving around but keep and eye on the water this according to my local garage should get any air out.

FREELAND2001 · Jan 29, 2017

Thank you all...
I guess, previous owner's mechanic needed a jiggle valve and removed it...

First things first...I will go to "our" mechanic tomorrow and see what's gonna happen... It seems that it's not related with the thermostat that much, even if the temp gauge rises better than it does before thermostat. After the cardboard, as I mentioned, the needle rises up to the midway but, there is not enough heating in cabin because of the bad heater core for this time...
I will leave expansion tank cap off and flush the heater core this weekend depending on the mechanic's performance.

dog-man · Jan 29, 2017

Does putting cardboard or tin foil over the radiator grill actually increase heat in some cases?
I recall seeing many cars with this during winters back in the 70's and before.

FREELAND2001 · Jan 29, 2017

Of course it does. Especially on highway driving, it works perfectly (now, except for my Freelander

).
One of my previous cars was '98 Opel Omega V6 auto and, I used to place a cardboard (actually an incandescent outer surface of a thick paper cloth bag from any company) behind the front grill in early December and remove it in mid April every year. This trick helped getting heat in cabin so much in winter time here.

dog-man · Jan 29, 2017

If we get another cold spell I will try it as my heater is not wonderful.

Nodge68 · Jan 29, 2017

dog-man said:
If we get another cold spell I will try it as my heater is not wonderful.

It's probably the thermostat. The TD4 thermostat sticks open, stopping the engine from warming up.

dog-man · Jan 29, 2017

I added a second stat before winter. It is much better now, but with this recent cold snap, it really struggled and took a long time to warm the cab.
Luckily, I was wearing thermal gear for work.

Nodge68 · Jan 29, 2017

My TD4 has the FBH. It's job is to provide better heater output, when it's cold outside. It works too. Non FBH Freelanders had a PTC heater for extra warmth. I will say that the TD4 heater isn't as hot as then V6 heater. But that is to be expected as the TD4 runs 15°C colder than the V6.

Emelia1 · Feb 1, 2017

Я решил эту проблему с помощью elettropompe Bosch 0392020034

biketeacherdave · Feb 1, 2017

Try flushing your heater matrix out, failing that just switch on your heated seats oh its a gaylander your proberly don't have them.

Nodge68 · Feb 1, 2017

biketeacherdave said:
Try flushing your heater matrix out, failing that just switch on your heated seats oh its a gaylander your proberly don't have them.

My last 3 Freelander's have had heated seats.

biketeacherdave · Feb 1, 2017

yeah my mates got them in his you can hardly tell their on

teddywood1 · Feb 2, 2017

Mine has them to

FREELAND2001 · Feb 3, 2017

Finally...
We have more than enough heat in cabin now...
My son took her to our new mechanic guy and, he copied all hose layout from the other Freelander in the shop with 2.5 V6 engine hose configuration. The previous owner's mechanic did his best

and connected the thick heater hoses as cross-connection.
It's ok now. Tomorrow, we will change the oil and do some cleaning job, since we do not expect snow here around...

teddywood1 · Feb 4, 2017

Well done thanks for letting us know

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