PARSLEYRIPPER

PARSLEYRIPPER

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Just bought a Gas/no gas Mig, was not sure about it tbh, guy in the shop said its great and you wont notice the difference, well what a load of ****e, its BLOODY fantastic. Welding on the landy outside in the wind (all it does here) and no gas problems, and the quality of weld is as **** as it was before (me) so a result I think. Oh and I got 100 quid off :D
Just thought I would share this in case anyone is thinking but not sure.
 
Gas is better ;) £10 a fill on CO2 and better welds, I'm running a 190A MIG though and I think I might get a TIG too
 
Dr_evil said:
Gas is better ;) £10 a fill on CO2 and better welds, I'm running a 190A MIG though and I think I might get a TIG too
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I am absolutely sure you are right, does being outside in strong wind affect the gas? not being smart I genuinely dont know, its what they said at the shop. I am not a welder really so if the metal sticks together neatly and nothing is on fire its a result for me. The whole sealy package great for a novice, I got everything inc mask (auto dim) and wire for 250, I thought that was great. Its a MightMig 150
 
PARSLEYRIPPER said:
I am absolutely sure you are right, does being outside in strong wind affect the gas? not being smart I genuinely dont know, its what they said at the shop. I am not a welder really so if the metal sticks together neatly and nothing is on fire its a result for me. The whole sealy package great for a novice, I got everything inc mask (auto dim) and wire for 250, I thought that was great. Its a MightMig 150
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Same as mine then just a smaller newer one, mines a monster sized one with spot weld timer

Gas will be affected if windy but you can always put it up a little higher or put a screen up. Weld wide the gas will also offer a bit better penetration and less grinding too, if you have a mate who works or runs a pub rob a bottle off him to try. After using both I prefer gas, just wish I could get my hands on Ar mix as its much nicer than pure CO2
 
Oh I see, I didnt even know you could use co2 I though it had to be Argon, I think you get the idea as to the extent of my welding knowledge, ie not much. My mate recently got a small welding burn on his hand, only a small one, they have just amputated his whole thumb back to the knuckle eeeek, he might have lost his arm as well, very serious. The surgeon said there is something in welding sparks/flame that can have a very toxic effect on the blood. Crikey moses, I nearly didnt bother getting one.
 
kinell if thats true the times ive been burnt i should have lost me arms and me legs and everyfing in between by now :D
 
PARSLEYRIPPER said:
Oh I see, I didnt even know you could use co2 I though it had to be Argon, I think you get the idea as to the extent of my welding knowledge, ie not much. My mate recently got a small welding burn on his hand, only a small one, they have just amputated his whole thumb back to the knuckle eeeek, he might have lost his arm as well, very serious. The surgeon said there is something in welding sparks/flame that can have a very toxic effect on the blood. Crikey moses, I nearly didnt bother getting one.
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Yep that's why I always wear gloves! And thick clothes too if at all possible
 
robint said:
kinell if thats true the times ive been burnt i should have lost me arms and me legs and everyfing in between by now :D
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Might not bother your body, but some people it does, very very nasty, his hand is a mess, he is a mechanic as well so its a pain.
 
only got a home hobby 120 amp mig, 3rd Ive owned over the many years of home repairs use, but am pleased with it for my purposes.
I only weld outside, as when I retired, I vowed to never own a garage again
(stupid bloody Idea when I`ve now owned a Disco 200 for over 3 years)
but only tend to use Machine Mart little bottled gas argon mix,
if I can get the big fill bottles of either Co2 or argon mix thats what I pick up on the day.
Buying/nicking a big bottle was my original Idea, but never came to be.

All in all I`m happy the way I weld, and its finished job---
but now thinking of getting a garage at long last, as my only son is moving out!!

I`ve got a ark welder, had it for years, must have been my 3rd one too I guess, but thats only an aircooled cheap jobby that gets a tad warm when I`m "pressing on"
I just stand it on a few bricks with a 12volt fan blowing on it,
its own turbo cooled version for OAP`s... :)

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Interesting... i didnt know about the toxic effect of weld burns...

with the amount of Illness I now have, my arms,legs, fat bellied body never seems to suffer from toxic burns, but fook me, do I jump when a red hot bobble gets in my boots!
and my polyester****e overalls & jumpers do have holes burnt in them where me angle grinder sparks catch me alight at times !!!
but I is still here :)
 
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i used to take the cover off me 140 amp air cooled arc welder..it still cut out on the overload but not so often , eventually it died on a hot day, the 180 amp fan cooled one that replaced it never gets hot.
 
I'm still a bit puzzled about that man who lost a thumb. I've been welding on and off since i was about 18 and bought my first cheapo 140A arc welder. Having spent many hours in the intervening years lying on my back underneath cars trying to get my melt pool to stay put upside down, I've been spotted with bits of hot metal all over. Dollops of hot stuff getting down inside your shirt are particularly unpleasant. So I must need amputating more or less in my entirety. Now if someone got an infection in a burn wound, and if it was left to carry on for a few weeks before seeking treatment, or if they were allergic to some of the materials involved, you might get a chance of a nasty outcome. But I bet loads of people on here have given themselves minor burns welding and have lived to tell the tale. Your friend's situation is certainly an unhappy one, but very very rare.
 
I've had a no gas mig for a few years now, it welds ok and the welds dont break, sometimes I make a neat job as well.

Wire is more expensive but no hastle getting gas or finding you have run out half way through a job.

Works well outside as commented on, I can use it ok but am not a welder :rolleyes:
 
I have a scar on my neck and been burnt by weld splatter when its run down my boots or wellies but not been toxic to me. Must have got an infection in his burn. Was he welding near rat **** infected metal or summat like that.
 
Yes, I've had hot metal down inside my boots too - not very pleasant. It's not helped by the fact that I tend to wear ex army boots with the last few lace holes undone so they're a bit like a funnel.

In answer to one of theoriginal questions, yes I too find that when welding outdoors the gas tends to blow away. You can usually compensate by turing it up a bit or if you have a lot to do, try to make a windbreak of some sort.

I quite enjoy welding outdoors in the winter. There's something about having snow on the ground a few inches away from white hot metal that does it for me.
 
Some of your replies are great, love the one about the boot being a funnel, bloody brilliant. Not sure why the infection happened, I think its just what my mate was told at hospital, anyway its enough to make me be a bit careful. Rat **** soaked metal ROFL, better than John Bishop on the telly at the mo Lol.
 
i either keep me feet out the way or wear wellies with the boiler suit legs down over outside.

just got to be careful not to step on any big hot bits.
 
ricc said:
i either keep me feet out the way or wear wellies with the boiler suit legs down over outside.

just got to be careful not to step on any big hot bits.
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:D
I still got me old work boots from my engineering days-
there oil/acid/supposed to be heatproof toetectors,
stink STILL of cutting fluids & oils even after 10 years,
but as in your wellies, tread on melted glowing bits and the soles soak `em up!

good idea of trews on the outside tho`.
 
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