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I had my L322 MOT'd last week and was advised that the test for any vehicle over 3000kg (L322 is 3050kg) will be changing in Jan 2010 my L322 would be liable for a class 7 vehicle test. This means that it becomes a goods vehicle and as such has to be tested as one. I have written to VOSA to get clarification of the implicatioons but one could be that it will have to be limited to 56mph on the motorway! If anyone has any other detail on this I would appreciate it.
 
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Where does the figure of 56mph come from?
I think some one is winding you up.You can currently tow a caravan and or trailer at 60mph,let alone drive a coach (not more than twelve metres in length) at 70mph .Not to mention all the other relevant classes that currently exist.
 
I have just spoken to VOSA who agree that due to the weight, any vehicle over 3000kg moves into the class 7 catagory, light goods vehicles and therefore has to be tested at a place that is licensed to carry out this type of test. A normal car MOT station cannot do it. I asked what other implications there were but they were pretty unsure themselves. i wiull now get onto the DoT.
 
Ahhh the joys of the open road, the magnificent english countryside, the gentle bonk of wood on willow........................... and the most crazy, numpty brained, f*@#witted, "We really have nothing better to do than make this s#@t up to annoy the happy car enthusiast"!.........bless em.
 
Just spoken to a really helpful guy at the DfT. He is going to look into it as they only have it as dual purpose vehicles would be re-classified. As soon as I know more I will let you know.
 
Hopefully it will be just something that they have overlooked and the answer will to carry on as you were chaps. I would like to know what you find out as i have a friend that runs one.

Cheers, Nick.
 
Used to be, because it was a 4x4 it was a dual purpose vehicles and so treated as a car.
What is the definition in the log book?
 
Had this back from DfT:


"I’ve had a word with colleagues at VOSA (the government agency responsible for the administration of the MOT scheme).

Your Range Rover is classed as a ‘heavy motor car’ (dependent on unladen weight) and as such can be tested at class IV testing stations – there are no plans to change the class of your vehicle, so your current MOT supplier can continue to test the car.

It is possible that your MOT station may have been getting confused with VOSA Special Notice 5 - 2009 (July 2009) which refers to changes to the classification of duel purpose vehicles."

Sorry if this has caused any confusion but I thought at least the MOT testing station would have known!


 
Has Pandoras box been well and truly opened ?
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JCH said:
I had my L322 MOT'd last week and was advised that the test for any vehicle over 3000kg (L322 is 3050kg) will be changing in Jan 2010 my L322 would be liable for a class 7 vehicle test. This means that it becomes a goods vehicle and as such has to be tested as one. I have written to VOSA to get clarification of the implicatioons but one could be that it will have to be limited to 56mph on the motorway! If anyone has any other detail on this I would appreciate it.
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Where did ya get the 3050kgs from?
 
JCH said:
Had this back from DfT:


It is possible that your MOT station may have been getting confused with VOSA Special Notice 5 - 2009 (July 2009) which refers to changes to the classification of duel purpose vehicles."

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Do many of us use our vehicles for fights?
 
I haven't looked it up, but i can't believe an l322 weigh's anything like 3 ton, a p38 only weighs just over 2 ton.

Just had a look on google, an l322 is about 2.6 ton unladen, but has a fully laden rating of 3.1 tons, maybe this is where th confusion is?
 
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just a thought on this. Doesnt the new license prohibit use of goods vehicles by new drivers?
or is that just 7.5 tonnes?
 
The class of test is only that - a class that VOSA has put the vehicle in for testing purposes.

The aspect of speed limits is a whole different piece of legislation and would be unnaffected by any decision of what test class the vehicle is in.

The aspect of speed limiters is another can of worms and currently on a motorway a PSV (coach) can do 70mph legally but must be limited to 100KPH (approx 62 MPH) HGV's are 60MPH limit and a speed limiter setting of 90KPH (56MPH)

There is a rolling program of including additional vehicles in the speed limiter regulations but I will have to look that up (its complicated) and will only apply to Goods vehicles not Dual purpose vehicles.

If you own a Range Rover or Discovery Van then that may well be another problem in the future!

Hope that is clear - ish.

Bazzer
 
With regard to weights

You have the unladen weight 2.* tonnes
and
you have the Gross vehicle weight, or maximum authorised mass which is used for most calculations.

Once upon a time we used to call vehicles by their unladen weight but since europe got involved everything on goods vehicles is specified on Gross vehicle weights.
 
re: testing weghts any dual purose vehicle above 3t on the vehicle weight plate goes to class 7 test and always has,there was a general reminder of this earlier this year and late last year due to the influx of yank tanks as testers we were all told to be carefull as to what was being tested in class 4 as a lot of 4x4 vehicles are in class 7 then they clarified it to being pick ups or van derived (long wheel based land rover pick up or van have always been class 7) but you never know its probably changed again by the time i have finished typing this
 
currently most older vehicles can, but the program rolling out the 56mph (90KPH) speed limiter requirment is on going, when I look it up I will post it. Dont confuse speed limits with speed limiter requirments and settings. The two come from different acts and regulations.

By the way, A rangerover towing a trailer carrying goods for hire or reward purposes is over 3.5 tonnes GTW (gross train weight) so is also subject to Tachograph rules, eg. must have a tachograph fitted, calibrated and in use and the driver subject to EU drivers hours rules. This has been the case for many, many years.
Examples of this are car dealers/garages moving cars within the course of their business!

We now call vehicles Large Goods vehicles and this will include any vehicle over 3500kgs GVW, but there are some driving licence allowances for 3.5 - 7.5tonne GTW. Eg. Cat C1. New drivers since about 1997 do not get a C1 category licence and will have to take a test to obtain it, plus a further test for towing a trailer over 750kgs
 
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