Took my 2010 freelander for the dreaded mot,they tested the emissions first,and,it failed.There was a slight whisp of smoke from the exhaust,not much,no point in carrying on with the test,as its failed.Ok no problem,to have it sorted,new emissions kit,£5000,yup,£5000,the car cost £10,000 last year,so what do we do now?The diesel is dead,that's what the government want!
norseman
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I'm not a diesel owner, but my understanding of the new regs. is that if a diesel has a DPF fitted ANY smoke emitted will result in a fail. Same ruling applies if the DPF appears to have been tampered with.
I think a lot of owners will be effected, but the irony is that the government's environmental policies are targeting modern diesels whilst older (ie no DPF fitted) will continue to pollute in many cases
I think a lot of owners will be effected, but the irony is that the government's environmental policies are targeting modern diesels whilst older (ie no DPF fitted) will continue to pollute in many cases
steveo
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Take it for a blast first - the DPF should self clean and if this isn't happening, it won't help. Before you spend 5k, try a DPF cleaner - we use Tunap at work and it works well.
It might not sort your problem, but its worth a try......
Or try a different garage..... tests will be very anal about the new smoke tests for a while, but some more than others
raisingveg
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as above stick a cleaner in there fill up with some top end fuel ESSO etc then go again
My 22 year old Trattor passed the MOT today, so mine's not dead.
Hippo
Lord Hippo
£5k for repair. What part/parts are you changing?
Hippo
Lord Hippo
That's what I thought, new engine price. I think he'd be betterer to get someone to have a proper look at it. Also start with a code reader rather than guess if there's something wrong. The vin plate will tell him if it had a dpf fitted when int factory being built.New engine for that!
He's not been on since he posted, Hippo
Chalky.
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Load the boot with concrete blocks, or something similar, find a nice steep road and rag the fook out of it going uphill a few times, that'll get the bores nice and hot and burn out most of the crap
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payydg
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My 22 year old Trattor passed the MOT today, so mine's not dead.
There’s hope for mine next month
Absolutely! Keep the faith
Kwakerman
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Got mine due this month tooAbsolutely! Keep the faith
Good luck, marra.
Have you got the EGR still on or are you taking a chance?
Kwakerman
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No EGR and no cat, not that it had one when it was built if you know what I mean! If you look at an exhaust catalogue the range that my VIN number falls in to has two options one says 'for models with Cat;' the other says for models without'. Without getting LR involved it would be hard to say either way. We shall see!Good luck, marra.
I put the cat back on mine when I did the rebuild, probably could have got away with it
I hope you are lucky with the EGR 
TorsionBhudda
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Removing EGR's and CAT's aren't covered by the new MOT regs it's only newer cars with DPF's that are affected. If your car passed last year with the CAT and EGR removed then it should pass this year unless the actual emissions coming from engine have serverly increased.
As for the OP's problem it's worth doing as been suggested and a good blast down the motorway and a cleaning solution in the tank should help. A few years ago when DPF first came about my father had issues with needing an oil change every 6 months the Dealer's mechanic advised him to give it a good run down motorway and if doing short in town journeys then don't change to 4th but stay in 3rd to keep rev's up so the DPF would self clean.
As for the OP's problem it's worth doing as been suggested and a good blast down the motorway and a cleaning solution in the tank should help. A few years ago when DPF first came about my father had issues with needing an oil change every 6 months the Dealer's mechanic advised him to give it a good run down motorway and if doing short in town journeys then don't change to 4th but stay in 3rd to keep rev's up so the DPF would self clean.
nickclarke
Member
That's incorrect - under the new rules removal or tampering with any part of the emissions control system will give a major fail.
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov...class3457/Section-8-Nuisance.html#section_8.2
TorsionBhudda
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Stand corrected.
JimS
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My MY2000 TD5 passed with no cat last week (the jury is out on whether it ever had one, some say 2001 onwards chassis 2A) but I believe it came that way. The EGR is still fitted.
In terms of the emissions testing, the limit I had applied to my TD5 (no cat) was 1.5 l/m, absorption coefficient 1.25 l/m, Zero drift 0.00 l/m, test type applied fast pass, test result pass, so comfortably under. Coldish engine too as the MOT place is on the same road as where I live.
I don't think the lack of cat will be an issue on older Landys, the EGR may be a different situation though
In terms of the emissions testing, the limit I had applied to my TD5 (no cat) was 1.5 l/m, absorption coefficient 1.25 l/m, Zero drift 0.00 l/m, test type applied fast pass, test result pass, so comfortably under. Coldish engine too as the MOT place is on the same road as where I live.
I don't think the lack of cat will be an issue on older Landys, the EGR may be a different situation though