1992lse
New Member
well you do have a case against the seller,as the garage you took the car to had admitted to you that they had seen the car before and had diagnosed the problem, so the seller had knowingly sold a car with a fault and did not mention it.
all private sellers must reveal any known faults.sold as seen is not a get out of responsibilty card.
all private sellers must reveal any known faults.sold as seen is not a get out of responsibilty card.
Datatek
Well-Known Member
Not sure about that, I've used the small claims court without a lawyer with some sucess and it's cost next to nowt.
Datatek
Well-Known Member
True, but if the garage that saw it before purchase will confirm in writing that it was knackered, then the seller has commited a deliberate act of deception. The courts do not like that kind of thing so would be on the side of the buyer.
its gotta be worth £60 - but yes - he needs the letter from the garage confirming it was known to be defective prior to sale/purchase.
alarmfitter
New Member
go back with a lump of 4x2 and tell him what you want to be done
nathan5346
Well-Known Member
take it back and punch his ear'ole, if he plays dumb set fire to his house 
Are you sure? too many garages are inclined to say HGF, and if its not mixing oil/water, or loosing water or overheating then chances are it's not got HGF. When you say some smoke is comming from the exhaust what colour is it? 16 MPG stop start is actually pretty good for a 4.6 V8, My 3.9 Classic vogue SE is not much better on LPG (19 MPG).
An no its not worth persuing the seller, the courts do not expect him to be a mechanic, and it may have had work elsewhere between your landrover garage first seeing it and you buying it.
I am a bit doubtfull on the garages motives, as HGF alone is not a reason for a new engine. It's a striaghtforward job and not hard to fix. Slipped or cracked liners are somthing else, but if this was the case you woudl have serious overheating/water loss.
Stewart
kooky_guy
Well-Known Member
That's a good point actually. Why would a head gasket cause a smell of petrol?
I'd get it checked by someone else.
My sister used to have a Supra Turbo (another car with a history of head gasket problems) and almost every time something went wrong with it her local main dealer immediately blamed the head gasket. This happened about 3 times until I spoke to them and suggested they actually test it before trying to con her into £2ks worth of work. They stopped doing it after that.
I'd get it checked by someone else.
My sister used to have a Supra Turbo (another car with a history of head gasket problems) and almost every time something went wrong with it her local main dealer immediately blamed the head gasket. This happened about 3 times until I spoke to them and suggested they actually test it before trying to con her into £2ks worth of work. They stopped doing it after that.
No, if by valve seals you mean inlet or exhaust valves.
Also depends on where the smell of petrol is, If in the engine bay it is probble a leaky injector seal, or fuel pipe, (fix immediatly before it goes BANG! or Wooooooooofff ) and check all the fuel pipes. If its also producing black smoke or a sooty exhaust and running rough then it's chrocally overfuelling (but I'd expect 2 mpg!!!) check the coolant temp sensor (but I wodul not expect any unburnt fuel to make it out of a hot cat). If the cats are stuffed due to this, convert to LPG and dump them its probbably cheaper!
Stewart
cheers zaphod... I will have a look tommorrow... im a jag man usually and have got use to them.
Its odd becuase at no time in the 400 miles Ive done has the temp gauge risen, I dont know if the thermostat has gone or generally its knackered. The garage said there was smoke coming from the engine and the exhaust and said something could be warped?? I was still getting over the shock! They said there was a missfire too. When it was smokey, I noticed a smell of petrol, and blue smoke out the back, it was also down on power and pinking quite a lot. I used it this morning and it was fine,
Frankly I dont really trust garages.... no offence to anyone, they were keen to say 5 grand for a new engine. Im down in Eastbourne and could do with finding someone down this way.
Ideally I want to clean it up, and sell it as spares, but I would want to be honest and say exactly what the problem is on it.
cheers all
Its odd becuase at no time in the 400 miles Ive done has the temp gauge risen, I dont know if the thermostat has gone or generally its knackered. The garage said there was smoke coming from the engine and the exhaust and said something could be warped?? I was still getting over the shock! They said there was a missfire too. When it was smokey, I noticed a smell of petrol, and blue smoke out the back, it was also down on power and pinking quite a lot. I used it this morning and it was fine,
Frankly I dont really trust garages.... no offence to anyone, they were keen to say 5 grand for a new engine. Im down in Eastbourne and could do with finding someone down this way.
Ideally I want to clean it up, and sell it as spares, but I would want to be honest and say exactly what the problem is on it.
cheers all
