I always liken it to a pointless arms race, they just want more "features" than other manufactures and most owners don't know how to use them.
Just take the seats, 18 way adjustable with memory settings (computer controlled), 4 stage heated or cooled (computer controlled) many massage programs, just your lumber, just your shoulders, from the bottom to the top or top down all with variable intensity, plus programmable time wise so you can have it start after an hour driving, all set up on the touch screen and this is on all 4 seats in some. then they have SRS air bags in them not to mention video screens and speakers all worked by more computers.
Get some water in a reversing camera which shuts a BUS off and half the car don't work. Give me a Classic RR.
I agree, totally out of control development. Sadly LR do not make real go anywhere vehicles anymore, just flash upmarket overweight status symbols.:mad:
 
I always liken it to a pointless arms race, they just want more "features" than other manufactures and most owners don't know how to use them.
Just take the seats, 18 way adjustable with memory settings (computer controlled), 4 stage heated or cooled (computer controlled) many massage programs, just your lumber, just your shoulders, from the bottom to the top or top down all with variable intensity, plus programmable time wise so you can have it start after an hour driving, all set up on the touch screen and this is on all 4 seats in some. then they have SRS air bags in them not to mention video screens and speakers all worked by more computers.
Get some water in a reversing camera which shuts a BUS off and half the car don't work. Give me a Classic RR.
Say what? All that in a car??
You would assume all that stuff would be the reserve of expensive corporate jets where it matters, not on 4 wheels where you rarely spend less than just a few minutes to a couple of hours at a time. Do people even use all that stuff?
Mine is still broken, and the missus and I were just looking at getting a decent FL2 V6 at the dealers and a second option of a ford explorer. That disco has tested our patience long enough and is certainly no longer welcome with us.
 
Now driving, yes driving (!), round in a Nissan X Trail as the replacement for our rogue D3 - so, for the disaffected LR owners this is a serious option - never considered one before but having had one as a courtesy car whilst our D3 was in ITU it was clear that this is a well engineered, very comfortable and capable 4x4 with lots of bells and whistles, and a reliability record and reviews that make impressive reading.
 
My brother had a new D3 in 2006 and for the first 12 months it spent most of it's life in the main dealers, things continued to go downhill after that until it went for scrap 5 weeks ago. It had 8k on it, most of that was probably clocked up on trips to the dealership. It ended up in the slurry pit completely submerged for 3 months, he said it "I must have left the handbrake off" (yes of course you did :rolleyes:). On the plus side he got £300 for it from the scrap man.
 
Now driving, yes driving (!), round in a Nissan X Trail as the replacement for our rogue D3 - so, for the disaffected LR owners this is a serious option - never considered one before but having had one as a courtesy car whilst our D3 was in ITU it was clear that this is a well engineered, very comfortable and capable 4x4 with lots of bells and whistles, and a reliability record and reviews that make impressive reading.

just a pity it drives like a car, when your head says it should drive like a truck! FYI having had both an X-Trail and a Pathfinder. The Pathfinder is by far the better vehicle (unless you want it to drive like a car!)
 

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