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black bear

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Hi,
I've just been watching a program on TV about "supercars" featuring the new defender. I boasts great off-road capability, but I challenge it to do anything my 1998 V8 Discovery (with a few suspension mods and diff lockers) cannot do with all it's driver aids.
Price difference at least £40K, too complex to do much home maintenance/troubleshooting with virtually no after-market parts.
i would be scared to go off-road (probably OK on-road in Chelsea), in case panels/bumpers etc got damaged as these are probably expensive to replace.
Dave
 
There was a promotional picture recently with a couple of sheep in the back.
Neither of them were dead though.
 
New Defender does not appear to be adaptable as old defender i.e. installing cherry picker or fire appliance. Is there a power take off for hydraulic pump?
 
IMO, as is the way with modern "cars" - the new deafener is full of electronic "solutions" to problems that do not exist ..... quite often they are revenue earning "solutions" for the main stealers too...

The only way I'd spend £40/£50 K on a car, would be something classic like a fully refurbed 2 door RRC, or maybe a series 1 RS Turbo..... ( other nice toys are available :) ).
 
black bear said:
Hmmm, I don't think many farmers will buy new defender, more likely to continue buying hilux, navara etc.
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It's not aimed at farmers. It's going to be aimed at those who would buy a RR sport, but want someone more rugged looking.

I think it's ok looking, and it'll do pretty much anywhere it'll need to go, even on road tyres.
However it's far to expensive, and the engines used are far to unreliable for it to be considered on the second hand market.
 
It will be fine, as all the old crap rots away people will naturally gravitate towards the new defenders, in fact I reckon it will be one of the only models in JLR current range that will lead a long life, D5 Dsport evoque etc will all be forgotten just as they should be!
 
black bear said:
Hi,
I've just been watching a program on TV about "supercars" featuring the new defender. I boasts great off-road capability, but I challenge it to do anything my 1998 V8 Discovery (with a few suspension mods and diff lockers) cannot do with all it's driver aids.
Price difference at least £40K, too complex to do much home maintenance/troubleshooting with virtually no after-market parts.
i would be scared to go off-road (probably OK on-road in Chelsea), in case panels/bumpers etc got damaged as these are probably expensive to replace.
Dave
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Actually it’s capabilities as an off road overland vehicle are becoming more apparent as it gets tested - the overland journal guys recent drove it from S. Africa to the skeleton coast and rate it very highly compared to the other options out there.

The issue is it’s reliability is currently untested. That will come with time.
 
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Disco1BFG said:
Yep, and IMO, it is highly unlikely to last long enough for reliability as we term it with simpler vehicles to become an issue :rolleyes: I.E. Will it still function in 25 years time as my D1 does ?



Or not, as the case may be :(
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It might, but will people who drive 20 odd year old cars be able to afford the maintenance? And will diesel be available, or affordable?
 
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