marjon said:

Stan wants it to stop as his reputation for a page of words saying very little is at stake .

Sorry Stan couldnt resist.

J

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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone said summat like this, although @Avocet1 ran me a close second and I have since relearned what I learned as a rep.
"after the first 10 seconds of you talking they will mentally switch off"
10 seconds is far too long for some on here!

But "very little" How very dare you!!!!!

Anaconda said:

Divorced did you say?
Work for yourself because no one would employ/work with you did you say?

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Haaa!!!

Thank you for being such a pathetic loser.

Yes, you are right, every person who has their own business only does it because they can't work for less money while being told what to do all day long by somebody else.

Now here is an interesting thing, all of you guys are posting comments during business hours on business days.

So either you are lazy employees who do personal stuff on their phone while at work, or nobody wants to hire you, or you are unemployed living on welfare.

Please do let me know which one it is.

I laugh at how pathetic you guys are, when you are unable to answer a question about a car, so you instead attack the person asking the question, to hide your lack of knowledge.

marjon said:

only 1 person? wrong i read at least 2.

Now as much as you may think I might be doom and gloom I dont see my comments that way.
Now as for technical stuff which I know you hate to talk about, and I do like to research interesting stuff. I class this as an interesting challenge.
I am actually gonna ask you 1 question although you always seem reluctant to answer anything techy I ask.

What does your rear diff look like? Does it have a convetional looking diff pan bolted on the rear?

Because this is the only difference I can see in major design change although it appears to use the same bolts to fix in place, which tells me the rear subframes are the same for that part.

The 2 different designs may use different drive shafts. we know they did, but as yours is a V8 they may have used the same 1s.

The fronts all seem to have the same fixing points down to having the same O ring between diff and sump. Some of the bolts are different lengths (longer for your proposed change).

And again drives shafts are unknown at this time.

This is what I have found, but beware I dont know how true any of that info is.

So the rest is up to you now isnt it, I have already said what I would do, which was get the 2 side by side (in person best) and give them a dam good coat of looking at before even touching a bolt.

Your guess at £100 each to me sounds low, and I wish you luck doing it on the drive.

J

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Please don't waste my time, I already got the answers to all of this, maybe three days ago, and I'm not interested in telling anybody here how this works out.

The question regarding the possibility of this working has been answered twice, on another forum, and the probability of the diff fitting has been answered here, once.

I am only here now to reply to direct insults and pathetic gotcha questions.

Stanleysteamer said:

(There is just a tiny little bit of a touch of Trumpery about all this now. )

And if I wasn't sure before, I am dead sure now.

It's a cr@p idea.

The fact that so few people have done it proves it. (So far one person that knew one other person who'd done it. According to OP, and as he knows EVERYTHING then this must be true.)

All good ideas get posted about all over LR forums.

Just hoping that if he does it, or doesn't but still makes the trip, that he doesn't accidentally go up my road, notice the landies, of which there are a lot, (3 out of 4 houses including mine), and stop off for a "chat".
But then he'd be barrelling down an autoroute at 1200 rpm, on his way to Perpignan or somewhere!!

Can't make my mind up whether to turn off notifications on this, as it is still funny, and STILL people are trying to help him, despite his attitude.
Hmmm!

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Actually, on another forum someone said they had done this to three cars and it worked out great for them on all of those cars.

And someone knew someone who did this on a car and it worked out great.

So that is four cars out of four that it has worked on, and that is only the people who have commented there, not the population of the entire world.

Now, can I find any comments on this forum anywhere where this idea didn't work out?

Oh wait, if someone hasn't already asked and answer a question on these forums then the idea is automatically bad.

Which means that these forums are now useless going forward because every answer to every question is already here.

So why are you idiots here if there is nothing new that can ever be asked or answered?

I don't know if you can see how stupid your comment is to imply that every possible question about these cars has already been asked and answered here, because I don't think you have the intelligence needed to realize just how stupid you are.

But don't I realize that people coming here to insult me and give me gotcha questions to try (and fail) to prove that I'm an idiot are actually just here trying to help me with my car issue?

marjon said:

If I can make a few people laugh/smile during each day on this planet I dont see that as a bad thing.

J

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And that is why I am still here, because you guys are still pathetically funny.

Blob said:

I tried to help to just to close it out around 10 pages back. I think we just need to drop it now, every post gets another essay as to why we're being laughed at.

I'm ok with being laughed at.

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And I am OK laughing at these guys.

I am not laughing at you because you gave me valuable information.

I literally only glance at this forum for five minutes a few times a day, to see if those guys have finally shut up, or if they are still insulting me based on nothing.

I use voice dictation to type these comments which I can do whilst doing something else at the same time.

And the comments practically write themselves, like someone saying that if the answer isn't already on this forum then the idea is a bad idea.

Talk about hubris and stupidity at the same time, to think that no idea could ever be talked about here that they haven't already seen and discussed.

Of course it's easy to respond to such a stupid arrogant comment.

On another forum 9/10 people have only given me valuable information, and it is a stark contrast to this place.

So I barely comment on the other place, because it's not funny there.

Given that I only respond to people here, who attack me with their stupidity, and have been doing that for 90% of the discussion, you have to ask yourself who is the problem?

Think about that, if no one continued to insult me here I would never respond again.

But they just can't help themselves, just like they did from the very first day.

And like I have seen them do to other people which is why I rarely ask questions here.

I have seen plenty of people comment then get insulted and then just vanish.

Most people wouldn't take the time to respond, they just leave.

How many people have these idiots run out of this forum with their personal attacks?

What is the ratio of people like you who answer questions versus them?

These are questions you should ask yourself since you are a regular here.

Blob said:

Brace yourself, I expect there's another one incoming momentarily.

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Just responding to dumb personal insults with laughs. I will continue to do this until it stops being funny. Each day I think I will get sick of doing it, but each day I find the new pathetic insults and gotcha questions still funny!

RRMaximus said:

Please don't waste my time, I already got the answers to all of this, maybe three days ago, and I'm not interested in telling anybody here how this works out.

The question regarding the possibility of this working has been answered twice, on another forum, and the probability of the diff fitting has been answered here, once.

I am only here now to reply to direct insults and pathetic gotcha questions.

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Well then....

I was trying to iron out some of the problems you may face when/if you do this change, to maybe help. And thats the thanks I get.

No you havent had 100% confirmation it can be done.
It has be voiced on here that it could possibly work. Phill said he didnt know but was a maybe, and you heard it from a friend that said a friend did something similar .

As it happens I am retired and find that when its hot outside when working, I come and see if I can help. You can see I am under UK retirement age. and certainly dont live in a country that would provide a living sitting on my arse.
So your assumptions are false, for me, and many others here.

You may think you are clever in taking the **** and laughing at us here. but you need to be mindfull that many here frequent many sites for LRs. Your attitude will not go unnoticed on other forums.
As much as some are serious and LZ is a bit more laid back with a bit of humour, there is still a huge knowledge base here, and certainly a growing L322 community knowledge.

So I wish you well. As I feel you have given no proof whats so ever of your mechanical knowledge, as you havent answered any technical question that could help you/others to maybe help or confirm the original question, you just came all out and took people the wrong way. As all you have is problems. some of which could be easy sorted with a little bit of investigation and mechanical knowledge, or a polite question on here, without the your "attack" of a light hearted response.

So all I can say is its your loss of information and you wont need to post here for us to find out, if you did it and if it worked.

J

marjon said:

Well then....

I was trying to iron out some of the problems you may face when/if you do this change, to maybe help. And thats the thanks I get.

No you havent had 100% confirmation it can be done.
It has be voiced on here that it could possibly work. Phill said he didnt know but was a maybe, and you heard it from a friend that said a friend did something similar .

As it happens I am retired and find that when its hot outside when working, I come and see if I can help. You can see I am under UK retirement age. and certainly dont live in a country that would provide a living sitting on my arse.
So your assumptions are false, for me, and many others here.

You may think you are clever in taking the **** and laughing at us here. but you need to be mindfull that many here frequent many sites for LRs. Your attitude will not go unnoticed on other forums.
As much as some are serious and LZ is a bit more laid back with a bit of humour, there is still a huge knowledge base here, and certainly a growing L322 community knowledge.

So I wish you well. As I feel you have given no proof whats so ever of your mechanical knowledge, as you havent answered any technical question that could help you/others to maybe help or confirm the original question, you just came all out and took people the wrong way. As all you have is problems. some of which could be easy sorted with a little bit of investigation and mechanical knowledge, or a polite question on here, without the your "attack" of a light hearted response.

So all I can say is its your loss of information and you wont need to post here for us to find out, if you did it and if it worked.

J

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The information here is available by searching previous articles.

Any new questions will be attacked for being stupid even when it is not.

So I will not waste my time asking any new questions here, but I still have access to all of the previous knowledge on here.

I was not making an assumption about anyone here, I was responding to a ridiculous insult directed at me.

99% of what I have posted here is just responding to direct personal attacks.

Please understand this fact, that the only reason this discussion has continued this long is because of the number of people that continue to attack me personally with stupid irrelevant comments.

Like someone saying that because I work for myself I must be difficult to get along with.

In my work I have clients that I have had for more than 25 years because they appreciate my honesty and intelligence.

I save them money by telling them when they are being stupid and when I am then proven right they realize that I am helping them.

This is what builds a lasting client relationship.

But someone here wanted to insult me personally about my job so I responded.

I only respond because people are coming here continuing to talk crap trying to sound smart when they are not.

If it helps you, I already have the answer to my question and I am not here any more to discuss that and never will.

Just so you are clear, I will never talk about the technical question that I asked here again.

So while you might think you are helping me by discussing things that I already know, I have no interest in that.

I already did a visual inspection of both differentials on the website gentlemen of salvage who have multiple photos of each differential from different angles.

I already explained here that I had done that.

They look identical and also Blob said that the part numbers are identical.

That is enough for me to invest in the idea if there are no obvious technical reasons why it will definitely not work.

No one has given me a definite reason why it would not work, they have only given me ridiculous extreme conjecture about things that would not happen within the working range of my engine and gearbox.

I have responded to each of these conjectures with facts and I have been attacked for doing so, for not listening to their completely ridiculous conjectures.

This is where the problem started, people said ridiculous things and I didn't accept them, and I responded with facts.

For example my gearbox will not go into fifth gear, except I can just manually put it into fifth gear, and I will be going at 20 mph beyond the speed where it automatically changes into fifth gear without being told to do that.

These facts mean that the fear that it won't go into fifth gear is completely ridiculous.

But when I explained this to people they kept coming back telling me that I wasn't listening to the help that I was getting here from the knowledgeable people with more mechanical understanding than me.

If those people had just said, "you are right" then this would've been a one page thread, but instead they got really upset with me.

So here we are heading towards 400 comments because they could not handle the situation where I had facts to dispute their hysterical conjectures based on nothing.

Because of this ridiculous situation I gave up giving facts here about my car a long time ago and now I just respond to gotcha questions and direct personal insults.

RRMaximus said:

And that is why I am still here, because you guys are still pathetically funny.

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Really?

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So I will not waste my time asking any new questions here, but I still have access to all of the previous knowledge on here.

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Now that may be difficult soon I think.

RRMaximus said:

Phil is on here and on the other forum and he continues to help me with questions there, and on one thread here.

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I am on here and continued to try and help on 2 of your threads .

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I was not making an assumption about anyone here,

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Yes you were.

RRMaximus said:

99% of what I have posted here is just responding to direct personal attacks.

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I think it could have gone another way if you had spoke sence, and answered questions sensibly.

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Just so you are clear, I will never talk about the technical question that I asked here again.

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Because you have no technical knowledge to answer?

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I already did a visual inspection of both differentials on the website gentlemen of salvage who have multiple photos of each differential from different angles.

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Really? So why not help yourself and ask if these look the same by posting pics?

RRMaximus said:

if those people had just said, "you are right"

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And you had tried and it was all a mess, then what?

You dont like technical questions, you are not as technical as you claim.

You are just a Guy that doesnt understand that we are here to help but maybe you need to help yourself first.

J

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Actually, on another forum someone said they had done this to three cars and it worked out great for them on all of those cars.

And someone knew someone who did this on a car and it worked out great.

So that is four cars out of four that it has worked on, and that is only the people who have commented there, not the population of the entire world.

Now, can I find any comments on this forum anywhere where this idea didn't work out?

Oh wait, if someone hasn't already asked and answer a question on these forums then the idea is automatically bad.

Which means that these forums are now useless going forward because every answer to every question is already here.

So why are you idiots here if there is nothing new that can ever be asked or answered?

I don't know if you can see how stupid your comment is to imply that every possible question about these cars has already been asked and answered here, because I don't think you have the intelligence needed to realize just how stupid you are.

But don't I realize that people coming here to insult me and give me gotcha questions to try (and fail) to prove that I'm an idiot are actually just here trying to help me with my car issue?

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So you've suddenly found 3 more cases of this?
Funny you didn't mention it before.
Links please.


And if this really is the case, why don't you naff off and do some work/ get on with buying them and changing them/ find a life for yourself?

RRMaximus said:

Haaa!!!

Thank you for being such a pathetic loser.

Yes, you are right, every person who has their own business only does it because they can't work for less money while being told what to do all day long by somebody else.

Now here is an interesting thing, all of you guys are posting comments during business hours on business days.

So either you are lazy employees who do personal stuff on their phone while at work, or nobody wants to hire you, or you are unemployed living on welfare.

Please do let me know which one it is.

I laugh at how pathetic you guys are, when you are unable to answer a question about a car, so you instead attack the person asking the question, to hide your lack of knowledge.

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We are entitled to breaks don't you know, having one at this very moment

RRMaximus said:

So either you are lazy employees who do personal stuff on their phone while at work, or nobody wants to hire you, or you are unemployed living on welfare.

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Or RETIRED you dumb@ss.

So this is the person that knew a person:

"I know someone that did a similar thing, because he had a long daily commute. His only complaint was poor acceleration at higher speeds. However, he drove solo with no cargo.

If you use a roof rack, or tow a trailer this is probably a bad idea. The added wind resistance will be too much for the reduction in horsepower. Also if you're planning to carry a lot of extra weight."

So NOT an unqualified "yes, great idea." But a few places where he thinks it would be a bad idea.

The rest of that thread went extremely like the one on here!!!!

But the other one that did it and said it was fine was NOT doing it to RRs!!!

"Actually, on another forum someone said they had done this to three cars and it worked out great for them on all of those cars."

Quote from that forum:

"FWIW, I have done this with 3 other vehicles with excellent results. E39 M5 (3.15-2.65) W163 ML500 (3.70-3.09) and R52 Mini Cooper JCW (about 20%; math is a little complicated because diff is integrated into the transmission with 2 layshafts)."

So this guy is a TOTAL shamus.

Trying to compare apples with oranges. and then convince us with his "findings".


Shame on you.

marjon said:

Really?


Now that may be difficult soon I think.


I am on here and continued to try and help on 2 of your threads .


Yes you were.

I think it could have gone another way if you had spoke sence, and answered questions sensibly.


Because you have no technical knowledge to answer?



Really? So why not help yourself and ask if these look the same by posting pics?



And you had tried and it was all a mess, then what?

You dont like technical questions, you are not as technical as you claim.

You are just a Guy that doesnt understand that we are here to help but maybe you need to help yourself first.
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I do not need to post pictures of differentials here that I can see have identical mounting points to then have other people here tell me that they are identical.

If somebody wanted to see that themselves then I already told them what the differentials were (3.73 and 2.76) and the website that I looked on so they could do it themselves!

I have completely restored a car from a shell, sourcing the entire running gear from a second car, rebuilding the engine, gearbox, drivetrain, electrical loom, brakes etc.

I do not mean that I paid someone to rebuild these components for me, I did all of the work on the car myself.

I have recently redone the entire braking system on my L322, changed a driveshaft, fixed a gearbox leak, solved a suspension problem and I am in the process of fixing a transfer case leak.

I am about to replace the thermostat with a lower temperature thermostat that I got from Germany on the advice of one of the threads on this forum.

I also have to replace a camshaft position sensor, and find the cause of a minor oil leak on my engine.

I also solved a problem with the instrument cluster that the Range Rover auto electrician expert said required a new instrument cluster and wanted £600 to do the job.

This involved me fixing a problem with the parking sensor computer in the rear of the car that magical affects the instrument cluster.

Total cost to me to fix this myself, against the advice of the Range Rover expert, £10 for the electrical connector spray.

But hey, you guys know more than me, and more than the guy on the other forum who said that they did this modification to three cars without problem.

Stanleysteamer said:

So this is the person that knew a person:

"I know someone that did a similar thing, because he had a long daily commute. His only complaint was poor acceleration at higher speeds. However, he drove solo with no cargo.

If you use a roof rack, or tow a trailer this is probably a bad idea. The added wind resistance will be too much for the reduction in horsepower. Also if you're planning to carry a lot of extra weight."

So NOT an unqualified "yes, great idea." But a few places where he thinks it would be a bad idea.

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Except I have said so many times here that I am not towing and I am not putting a roof rack on and it will just be me and my dogs.

So for my situation it is a great idea, which I explained in the other forum.

So you ignored my explanation in the other forum (and multiple times here) and came here with another gotcha comment to be proven wrong again!

Just in case anyone is sufficiently MASO to want to read his piffle on the other forum: