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mattybaxter

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Can anyone offer me any advice on the above please?

I'm putting a 92 defender 110 with rear drums and rotten beyond repair mud shields fitted up for test next week. I've been told that they're not necessary for a test and if poss id like to remove them for the time being as i need to spend the money on other jobs just now.

Has anyone had experience of this before? I just read a thread by someone who was refuse their certificate without disc shields.

thanks in advance,

Matty.
 
It must be down to the tester, my old 90 has passed its MOT for the last 5 years or so with one disc shield fitted and one missing
 
Thought the general rule was that if it wasn't there they can't test it. Mine went in without a rear fog lamp and passed fine
 
Its nothing to do with the MOT, as long as the brakes work then its a pass, even if the discs look ####ed if they pull the readings its an advisory at worst!
 
One of the first jobs I do on a new to me car is to remove the so called disc shields. IMO all they do is to trap mud and stones and decrease cooling.

mike
 
slightly OT, like the little G meter gizmo they have for measuring brakes on 4x4s, there was me thinking they just jump on the brakes to see if it stops/pulls to one side :)

Mine has no shields on the rear, (fronts still there atm) not even mentioned at the mot, was more irritated when she dripped on him (oops)
 
timtheenchanteruk said:
slightly OT, like the little G meter gizmo they have for measuring brakes on 4x4s, there was me thinking they just jump on the brakes to see if it stops/pulls to one side :)

Mine has no shields on the rear, (fronts still there atm) not even mentioned at the mot, was more irritated when she dripped on him (oops)
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I guess you mean the Tapley Meter.... A good MOT station should have rollers that can take a 4X4.
 
My most recent MOT went with one guard on and one guard off. When I did swivel ball the old shield was goosed, so threw it. Have a spare but not with me down in Hampshire. No mention at all, and the tester knew landys and was very thorough.
 
Jongould said:
Not for the handbrake though ;)

But yeah, decent rollers will work with 4x4's...
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When I worked we had some BMC 250 JU vans. Three speed auto. We couldn't get a decent reading off the Tapley. One of the fitters discovered that you got a better reading if you knoced the box out of gear. That was fine, until I missed the N and hit the R...Boy oh boy did I get a good reading....
 
and yup, tapley.

looked just like this
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timtheenchanteruk said:
don't know of any round me, they're all 2 roller setups, and can't do permanant 4wd on them.
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Yeah they can, they run the rollers opposite ways on the same axle so the prop doesn't need to turn. It wouldn't matter anyway on a LR as unless you had the center difflock engaged the center diff would just spin away
 
Jongould said:
Yeah they can, they run the rollers opposite ways on the same axle so the prop doesn't need to turn. It wouldn't matter anyway on a LR as unless you had the center difflock engaged the center diff would just spin away
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Im not the one doing the MOT, twas the mot chap that said they cant do it on permanant 4wd motors, been going to him for years, the mot station next door to work don't put em on the rollers either.

presumably the gmeter way has zero chance of somone claiming diff damage doe to the rollers.
I thought thet could use the rollors too tbh, cos they only move really slowly, and the sticker on the front of the fusebox says summat about 3kp/h or similar for a single axle roller rig.
 
The garage I use for MOT's always ask if I'd like the brakes tested by rollers or tapley meter. I prefer tapley.
 
timtheenchanteruk said:
Im not the one doing the MOT, twas the mot chap that said they cant do it on permanant 4wd motors, been going to him for years, the mot station next door to work don't put em on the rollers either.

presumably the gmeter way has zero chance of somone claiming diff damage doe to the rollers.
I thought thet could use the rollors too tbh, cos they only move really slowly, and the sticker on the front of the fusebox says summat about 3kp/h or similar for a single axle roller rig.
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Most people don't like using rollers, viscous couplings are prone to failing so many just use a G meter

ratty said:
The garage I use for MOT's always ask if I'd like the brakes tested by rollers or tapley meter. I prefer tapley.
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Its better as its less accurate, means you have more chance to pass on slight imbalances e.t.c.
 
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