Shippers
Well-Known Member
The internet doesnt shoot/arrest or behead anyone...
The internet doesnt shoot/arrest or behead anyone...
LetsHopeItFits
Active Member
Have you been living under a rock??
Extremist groups have been kidnapping westerners, particularly those they believe to be american and/or british, and chopping their heads off, and filming it and putting it on the internet. I assumed most of the world was aware of this?
Extremist groups have been kidnapping westerners, particularly those they believe to be american and/or british, and chopping their heads off, and filming it and putting it on the internet. I assumed most of the world was aware of this?
ER1C
Well-Known Member
Eh, are you thinking of 10 years ago ?
Turboman
Mab An Gov
7.5k might get you an old but serviceable yacht.
You could fettle it up a bit, and sail down to Gib, you should only need a few gallons of fuel for your auxiliary to get in an out of harbours.
Spare yourself all the bouncing about, have a great sail, and be able to walk when you get there!
Turboman
Mab An Gov
South Africa and Zim are probably more dangerous for white people at the moment than anywhere else, except possibly Yemen or Afghanistan.
ER1C
Well-Known Member
dont forget Luton... !
Turboman
Mab An Gov
Fair point. But he could avoid Luton on the way down!
LetsHopeItFits
Active Member
South africa cant be that dangerous, given that a decent chunk of the population are white (yes, a small minority, but still a decent chunk)
And yeah, okay, dont camp on the side of the road in Johannesburg, thats probably a bad idea (likewise with Luton!)
And yeah, okay, dont camp on the side of the road in Johannesburg, thats probably a bad idea (likewise with Luton!)
NorfolkBird
Well-Known Member
Bobsticle
De Villes Advocaat
Like the idea. Love the hotspur. Would have done it myself given the opportunity.
It’s such a shame Africa has become such a crap hole of desperation and danger.
To have any chance of completing such a journey your going to need funding. The heap will need to be as new and your going to need to take a spare everything with you.
Try and get hold of a book by Ian Coates. He set off on a trip to SA to pick up a mates Land Rover and drive it back. He never made it. He did however get his wife to ship his motorcycle to him and spent seven years going the opposite way round the world before returning to his farm in Todmorden. He wasn’t a farmer as such but a mechanic.
The owner of the Land Rover insisted he had it scrapped and walk away. It did have sentimental value to him and that is why he wanted it back in the UK but the first time Ian was stopped by the local army for his own safety the plug was pulled.
In reality there are only two routs up Africa. East or west. He was half way up the west rout and to detour to the east rout would have taken months.
Both gentlemen in this story were affluent middle aged men with a healthy budget behind them. Money was of little consequence but they both had their eyes fully open to the fact that safety comes first and a single middle aged bloke has more chance avoiding confrontation than a group of teenagers on a jolly.
It’s such a shame Africa has become such a crap hole of desperation and danger.
To have any chance of completing such a journey your going to need funding. The heap will need to be as new and your going to need to take a spare everything with you.
Try and get hold of a book by Ian Coates. He set off on a trip to SA to pick up a mates Land Rover and drive it back. He never made it. He did however get his wife to ship his motorcycle to him and spent seven years going the opposite way round the world before returning to his farm in Todmorden. He wasn’t a farmer as such but a mechanic.
The owner of the Land Rover insisted he had it scrapped and walk away. It did have sentimental value to him and that is why he wanted it back in the UK but the first time Ian was stopped by the local army for his own safety the plug was pulled.
In reality there are only two routs up Africa. East or west. He was half way up the west rout and to detour to the east rout would have taken months.
Both gentlemen in this story were affluent middle aged men with a healthy budget behind them. Money was of little consequence but they both had their eyes fully open to the fact that safety comes first and a single middle aged bloke has more chance avoiding confrontation than a group of teenagers on a jolly.
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LetsHopeItFits
Active Member
So is it just too dangerous now?
Bobsticle
De Villes Advocaat
Just remember. Ian is a mechanic and believe me after spending considerable time on the phone to him knows more about series land rovers than I will ever hope to know.
He is also clinically bonkers and the only time he was home for any length of time was a couple of years ago when he broke his back from falling from a roof repair at the farm.
He is old now. Even old to me but still amazes us with his adventures. And he usually only sees his wife when he comes across an airport and she flies out for a couple of weeks to stare blankly at his travel stories.
He is also clinically bonkers and the only time he was home for any length of time was a couple of years ago when he broke his back from falling from a roof repair at the farm.
He is old now. Even old to me but still amazes us with his adventures. And he usually only sees his wife when he comes across an airport and she flies out for a couple of weeks to stare blankly at his travel stories.
NorfolkBird
Well-Known Member
Go to London, talk to any South African working in a restaurant, bar or club. They will tell you what the current situation is.
Bobsticle
De Villes Advocaat
Flying to a holiday resort to see a scabby lion is far removed from traversing desperate people attempting everything possible to feed their children. This isn’t inner city wannabe gangsters looking for trouble. Some of the areas your looking to travel through are hideous. The populations are dying. Life is cheap and the change in your pocket could save their children from a horrendous death. Sadly your change will run out and their options become more limited.
We had a chap on the forum not so long ago who thought he could improve things by renovating a LWB and taking it to a school in Africa to be used as a school bus, collecting the kids in the surrounding villages.
It cost him a fortune in bribes just to get there. Every official you come across will need paying off. And they will come looking for you. They will hold you up and delay your journey until they are sure you can’t give any more. That simply leaves less for the next one that will delay you longer and so on and so forth.
LetsHopeItFits
Active Member
So the people who have done the london to capetown in record time (I think 3 teams have done it in around 10 days, one team in a panda 4x4!) How did they do it?
NorfolkBird
Well-Known Member
That was years ago. You need to get up to date info if you're thinking of travelling.
Bobsticle
De Villes Advocaat
Funding. And lots of it.
