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Adam786

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Hi guys
New to the world of land rovers but my journey has began.
Got a mint CSW 1990 Land Rover 90.
Question is
1. I am putting on 285 75 16 modular 16 inch wheels on the back door. I think it weights 35kg.
Are the rear doors strong n stable to carry spare wheel of this weight? Any upgrades I need to do to the door to make it more sturdy?

Thank you..
 
Hi and welcome!

The door isn’t built to take the weight of a spare wheel without causing damage over time. If you want to keep the spare on the rear, consider a swing-away spare wheel carrier. It keeps the wheel where you want it but takes the weight from the door and spreads it over the rear crossmember and the body capping next to the door.
 
I have had a look they expensive tho....can stronger hinges be fitted?
There is current spare wheel 225 85 1
6 I was going to weight them both just for comparison but the new wheel is dam heavy!! Lol 45kg maybe
 
You can get better hinges but if I’m correct, they’re more for security as opposed to weight bearing. Try eBay for a used swing away carrier to save a few quid.:)
 
True carrying a spare heavy wheel from a steam engine, tends to offset the steering a tad.
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Adam786 said:
I have had a look they expensive tho....can stronger hinges be fitted?
There is current spare wheel 225 85 1
6 I was going to weight them both just for comparison but the new wheel is dam heavy!! Lol 45kg maybe
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The hinges aren't the problem, the problem is that the weight of the spare wheel destroys the rear door frame.
 
Later Year Models (>2003) had the upgraded pressed steel door that was a much stronger frame to bear the weight and the design of the mount for the wheel changed - it solves the self destructing door issue but isn’t a straight swap on the wiring for HRW Rear WashWipe as the looms changed.

I’d go swing away wheel carrier……
 
The wheel will damage the integrity of the door.
As everyone is advising use a swing away carrier or don't bother with a wheel on the back at all
 
I keep,the spare the back of my 90, secured to the centre bulkhead using a decent ratchet strap. It does take up some room inside so it’s not to everyone’s liking. But at least if/when you change the tyre, it’s not covered in muck and hibernating spiders!
 
I think the swing arm option is the best option I'm going to see if I can find a 2nd hand one...cheers
 

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Adam786 said:
I think the swing arm option is the best option I'm going to see if I can find a 2nd hand one...cheers
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They are available second hand I picked on up at the end of the summer for about half the price of a new one. Just be aware that second hand ones may need a bit of refund work. If they have not been maintained (greased) the pivot bolts may have work and need to be replaced. I had to do this with mine. I also found that the long bolt at the end of the main carrier (before the little piece that attaches it to the door) that goes into a threaded hole at the bottom had rusted and the threaded hole was no longer threaded. This is not a problem as you just drill it all the way through and fit a long through bolt similar to every other pivot. I have had to do this twice on both second hand whee carriers I have used. It is easy enough to do but does require an extra long drill bit and a some new bolts. It still works out significantly cheaper but it is not a straight out the box fit like getting a new one.
 
By the time I did my rebuild I was ready for rear door number 3. I'd gone down the swing away carrier route with door number two. When door number two collapsed I gave the carrier away to another LZ member. Having never had a puncture on my Landy I decided to make a false wheel out of two 5mm plywood discs with wooden spacers in between. With the wheel cover on you can't tell it's not a real wheel on the back. Light as a feather.
 
Al2O3 said:
By the time I did my rebuild I was ready for rear door number 3. I'd gone down the swing away carrier route with door number two. When door number two collapsed I gave the carrier away to another LZ member. Having never had a puncture on my Landy I decided to make a false wheel out of two 5mm plywood discs with wooden spacers in between. With the wheel cover on you can't tell it's not a real wheel on the back. Light as a feather.
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I would echo that, I am in the process of fitting my third rear door as part of my fire rebuild. I have also never had a puncture and the only time I have needed a spare was when I let a friend drive off road and he managed to pop the bead off. So I have lugged it around for 14 years for no reason. But there is also part of me that wouldn't feel comfortable without it.
 
dag019 said:
I would echo that, I am in the process of fitting my third rear door as part of my fire rebuild. I have also never had a puncture and the only time I have needed a spare was when I let a friend drive off road and he managed to pop the bead off. So I have lugged it around for 14 years for no reason. But there is also part of me that wouldn't feel comfortable without it.
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That feeling goes away.
Generally I only use mine locally, say up to 25 miles radius. If me or the mrs got a puncture the other could come and get us with the spare and jack. Although if it was me out in it the mrs wouldn't be able to lift the spare in to the car so it would mean am extra journey. It wouldn't be far though. If I was going on a long journey I'd put the spare in the back or even bolt it on to the door wheel carrier!
 
Al2O3 said:
That feeling goes away.
Generally I only use mine locally, say up to 25 miles radius. If me or the mrs got a puncture the other could come and get us with the spare and jack. Although if it was me out in it the mrs wouldn't be able to lift the spare in to the car so it would mean am extra journey. It wouldn't be far though. If I was going on a long journey I'd put the spare in the back or even bolt it on to the door wheel carrier!
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I think that is my poblem I regualalry travel long distance and do abotu 25/30k a year so i spend a lot of time far enough away if i got a puncture it would be a big issue.
 
dag019 said:
I think that is my poblem I regualalry travel long distance and do abotu 25/30k a year so i spend a lot of time far enough away if i got a puncture it would be a big issue.
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I'm afraid I'd put the spare on the back :(
 
Al2O3 said:
I'm afraid I'd put the spare on the back :(
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That is why one of the first things I did was fit a swing away to the 90 I am currently using. But I picked it up second hand and a bit of a refurb and a lick of paint and it does the job.
 
Adam786 said:
Hi guys
New to the world of land rovers but my journey has began.
Got a mint CSW 1990 Land Rover 90.
Question is
1. I am putting on 285 75 16 modular 16 inch wheels on the back door. I think it weights 35kg.
Are the rear doors strong n stable to carry spare wheel of this weight? Any upgrades I need to do to the door to make it more sturdy?

Thank you..
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Used one not far from you in Keighley on Facebook Marketplace

 
dag019 said:
I would echo that, I am in the process of fitting my third rear door as part of my fire rebuild. I have also never had a puncture and the only time I have needed a spare was when I let a friend drive off road and he managed to pop the bead off. So I have lugged it around for 14 years for no reason. But there is also part of me that wouldn't feel comfortable without it.
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Yeah only time I have had an issues was popping the tyre off the bead when aired down. I run Michelin ZXL which is a pretty rough tyre tbh
 
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