we'd reccomend not using single axle rollers,most freelander viscous couplings are not working properly hence the transmission wind up and rear tyre wear.just to be on the safe side.
 
Info in rave says not to use 2 wheel rollers unless you remove propshaft....
 

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Treworgey 90 said:
How many aeons ago was that? :eek:
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Not long, we're all subject to 5 yearly refreshers. I don't know why you're arguing the point, if the vehicle in question is maintained properly, there will be no need for an independent brake test on all wheels as they will be in good order, again, if they're not, the tester should pick up on that during the inspection. The tester using the decelerometer is at least showing he does give a **** about potentially damaging your car
 
landranger deeside 4x4 ltd said:
we'd reccomend not using single axle rollers,most freelander viscous couplings are not working properly hence the transmission wind up and rear tyre wear.just to be on the safe side.
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Totally agree, not worth the risk, we all know the likelihood of a viscous being knackered. Can I assume you're a specialist mate?
 
Rangie_Daz said:
Not long, we're all subject to 5 yearly refreshers. I don't know why you're arguing the point, if the vehicle in question is maintained properly, there will be no need for an independent brake test on all wheels as they will be in good order, again, if they're not, the tester should pick up on that during the inspection. The tester using the decelerometer is at least showing he does give a **** about potentially damaging your car
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MOT test is not there to check if the vehicle, whatever it may be, is maintained properly. How would a visual inspection along with a decelerometer test show if one of the rear brakes is not as efficient as the other side? It wont, so the brake rollers DESIGNED for 4x4 are far more effiecient and a truer representation of the state of the braking system. Last time vosa came to our place they asked to see the decelerometer and asked when we last used it. when we told them never he laughed and said he was not at all surprised as most newer stations had the new brake rollers for 4x4 use. Tested a cherokee today and payed more attention at how the rollers worked, the prop wont spin at all as the opposite wheel is turned in the opposite direction so only the diff turns around itself with no load on the prop if ya get my drift..lol. quite a simple idea really but very effective.
 
mad mechanic said:
MOT test is not there to check if the vehicle, whatever it may be, is maintained properly. How would a visual inspection along with a decelerometer test show if one of the rear brakes is not as efficient as the other side? It wont, so the brake rollers DESIGNED for 4x4 are far more effiecient and a truer representation of the state of the braking system. Last time vosa came to our place they asked to see the decelerometer and asked when we last used it. when we told them never he laughed and said he was not at all surprised as most newer stations had the new brake rollers for 4x4 use. Tested a cherokee today and payed more attention at how the rollers worked, the prop wont spin at all as the opposite wheel is turned in the opposite direction so only the diff turns around itself with no load on the prop if ya get my drift..lol. quite a simple idea really but very effective.
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At last! Someone speaks sense.
 
Thanks for the many replies, I see that it's a real split decision on this one, although all the drivetrain works well I'm playing safe and have found a garage that uses a newish set of 4 wheel rollers.
 
I know mine is a disco 2 ,But i took it for an MOT the other day and the tester was a right jack the lad about 25 years old and new it all .And he really ****ed me offffff.I saw him trying to pull my fuel flap open nearly bending it !! It wont open mate for me to check the cap he said, i said try turning the engine off he did fuel flap opened ??Brake test he said put it into 2 wheel drive mate !! I said ya cant permanent 4 wheel drive so he went off down the road came back and said brakes are OK but I'm failing it on the hand brake he said he yanked it up while coming back and it never stopped properly ?? I said its a transmission type brake it not on the wheel discs !!!! and it was OK before you took it out so now its at the land rover place in cubbington Leamington spa having the hand brake ripped apart and repaired ......Crappy MOT tester should never be allowed on land rover type cars..
 
Allen 666 said:
I know mine is a disco 2 ,But i took it for an MOT the other day and the tester was a right jack the lad about 25 years old and new it all .And he really ****ed me offffff.I saw him trying to pull my fuel flap open nearly bending it !! It wont open mate for me to check the cap he said, i said try turning the engine off he did fuel flap opened ??Brake test he said put it into 2 wheel drive mate !! I said ya cant permanent 4 wheel drive so he went off down the road came back and said brakes are OK but I'm failing it on the hand brake he said he yanked it up while coming back and it never stopped properly ?? I said its a transmission type brake it not on the wheel discs !!!! and it was OK before you took it out so now its at the land rover place in cubbington Leamington spa having the hand brake ripped apart and repaired ......Crappy MOT tester should never be allowed on land rover type cars..
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Why don't you slap him with the repair bill? He ****ed it! He should pay! People like that really **** me off!
I dnt give a **** who test my freelander, or what they think they know, it's not going on 2 wheel rollers unless they accept responsibility for any future transmission issues. I might sound like I'm being a ****, but it's my only mode of work transport, do I got to protect it!
 
As far as I am aware a Freelander shouldn't go on the rollers unless the roller machine has the capability of contra rotating rollers. That is for the brake test one roller goes forward and the other backwards. The differential rotates to allow this without any drive back through the propshaft which should remain stationary.

Allan
 
AllanI said:
As far as I am aware a Freelander shouldn't go on the rollers unless the roller machine has the capability of contra rotating rollers.
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Unless the Garage's equipment is out of the Ark, it will.
 
I am pleased to tell you that the Land Rover place at cubbington L/Spa made a great job on the hand brake repair ( On my TD5 Disco 2) i took it back for the retest and i asked if another tester could check it out they did and now i have my new MOT ticket.
 
Allen 666 said:
I am pleased to tell you that the Land Rover place at cubbington L/Spa made a great job on the hand brake repair ( On my TD5 Disco 2) i took it back for the retest and i asked if another tester could check it out they did and now i have my new MOT ticket.
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Yeah but how much did it cost you because of some muppet testing it wrong?
 
Glad we ALL got there in the end! :):)
My F/L don't go on any MOT rollers - Unless there are two sets and they rotate in diffent directions.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
mad mechanic said:
MOT test is not there to check if the vehicle, whatever it may be, is maintained properly. How would a visual inspection along with a decelerometer test show if one of the rear brakes is not as efficient as the other side? It wont, so the brake rollers DESIGNED for 4x4 are far more effiecient and a truer representation of the state of the braking system. Last time vosa came to our place they asked to see the decelerometer and asked when we last used it. when we told them never he laughed and said he was not at all surprised as most newer stations had the new brake rollers for 4x4 use. Tested a cherokee today and payed more attention at how the rollers worked, the prop wont spin at all as the opposite wheel is turned in the opposite direction so only the diff turns around itself with no load on the prop if ya get my drift..lol. quite a simple idea really but very effective.
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I never said the MOT was to check the maintenance of a vehicle, nor did I say a visual inspection would give you an idea of difference in efficiencies on any given road wheel. It was merely a comment intended to mean that, while it is nothing at all to do with test, your experience will tell you what kind of vehicle you're looking at. Also, I couldn't agree more that rollers designed for use with 4x4 systems are by far and away the best possible test of a land rovers brakes. The topic of this thread was specifically 2 wheeled rollers and that's what my comments were about. Unfortunately, a huge number of VTS' (including mine) only have 2 wheeled rollers, and of course decelerometer. Would you agree that a decelerometer test is the best way to go when you dont have a 4 wheel roller set up?
 
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