Best of luck to you guys :) Sounds like it is going to be a amazing trip

If you go again next year i would love to tag along? :p Couple of things such as No license and a Landy in 3 million peices are a problem at the moment but with a bit of luck they won't be next year :)
 
Got mapSource all up and running nicely booger, thanks for that. Any way you can seand me your route? The waffle boards are great too, im gona leave them as they are, they will get dog eared anyway. Chassis isnt looking so good though, there are some significant holes and lack of structure, the bump stops have rotten off and the axle has smased the weekened chassis where the rear bump stops used to be. Worst case will be a re-chassis, which ive wanted to do for a while, and means i can fix a fiew of the other problems that have been plaguing it. For now im trying to rebuild the broken bits, if it works i will send it for an MOT.

Great, the route is still just a list of places. The exact route between the places still needs to be decided, and I'm waiting for my new book to shed some light on that, but I haven't seen the damn postman for a week. You can probably figure out a good route just from the paper map and the contour lines :D

Anyway list is :

1. Ceuta
2. Chefchaouen
3. Meknes
4. Azrou
5. Cedre Forest
6. Tinerhir
7. Todra Gorge
8. Gorges Du Dades
9. Zagora
10. M'Hamid
11. Tata
12. Akka
13. Assa
14. El Aioun Du Draa
15. Tan-Tan
16. Agadir
17. Tamri
18. Essaouira
19. Moulley Bousselam
20. Ceuta


I've upgraded my Garmin Europe Maps to the latest version, and it includes a lot more detail on Morocco, in fact the whole route is now routable by the gps, except for the Draa Valley (Zagora - Tata)

Yip so just fix the holes in your landy and we are good to go :)

 
Zagora to Foum Zguid is all piste. an excellent one at that.

taken from my tracklog:

21/10/2008| 14:44:38 | 58 km/h |245° true | N30 03.734 W6 29.995

at that GPS waypoint the piste becomes a graded road, quite wide and ready for tarmac. We were ramping along it at 85KPH, not advised though as some parts of the road had been washed away and you have to make detours through rivers and over dunes. Not sure how much progress they would have made by now, but thought it worth a mention as knowning Morocco, nothing much would have happened!

HTH

G
 
Welded the first major hole. Was much more rotton than it appears in the photo.
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Cut that section out, then welded in an upper and lower inner plate, as chassis is built this way.

weld2.jpg


Then put the final plate over that.

Weld3.jpg


next im doing the bottom part of that chassis beam, then welding on the new spring seat, and fabricating a new bump stop mount for my new bump stop. :D
 
Thanks Foss - I'm already having fun :D

Got Chris Scott's Morocco Overland book, it has pretty much all the pistes that are on the map, plus a few that are not, and there are fairly detailed descriptions of all of them.

So I have been reading the descriptions, then altering the route to make sure we do all the hard ones.

Then I have been manually drawing the route over the pistes we want to do in Mapsource. But when I transferred the routes to my device, they reverted to straight lines.. Doh.. after much dicking about I realised that if you convert the routes to tracks and then back to routes, it works :p

If anyone knows what I am going on about, you need this application http://www.sackman.info/ for the conversions.
 
Welded the first major hole. Was much more rotton than it appears in the photo.


Cut that section out, then welded in an upper and lower inner plate, as chassis is built this way.



Then put the final plate over that.



next im doing the bottom part of that chassis beam, then welding on the new spring seat, and fabricating a new bump stop mount for my new bump stop. :D

Cool, it will need to be strong, cause I've detoured the route so we do the "hardest" piste in the book, sounds a bit like that Top Gear Andes route from the description. :D
 
None of the pistes in Morocco are "hard". If you can manage a few tough greenlanes in Wales you can drive anywhere or anything in Morocco :)

G
 
get yourselves down the canyons in the Draa...thats after the forests and the dunes & the shale and......damn I wish I was goin back!

On the way back north along the coast, check out the port at Essaouira when the blue fishing boats come back in-an amazing site
 
get yourselves down the canyons in the Draa...thats after the forests and the dunes & the shale and......damn I wish I was goin back!

On the way back north along the coast, check out the port at Essaouira when the blue fishing boats come back in-an amazing site


You mean like this..

morocco2010.jpg
 
Ive been looking up land mine risk in Morocco, it seems like the southern half of the border between Morocco and Algeria has some mines, and the border between Morocco and the Western Sahara is hevily mined. There is software on here for garmin GPS which has the knowen mined areas highlighted. What are peoples thoughts or experiences with land mine precautions? I dont think we should have any real danger on our route, but if were off the track in those regions, should we take some precautions or would we have to be seriously out of place and unlucky to find land mines?
 
I would advise that in the boder regions to stick to known pistes. there really is no need to go off piste in these places. I think the Algerian border is fairly safe, its the WS border or "the berm" that is still heavily mined and there is still a military presence there.

A few years back a vehicle went off piste at the Mari/WS border and hit a mine. Killed all onboard...

...what would your mother say :D

Play it safe around that area.

G
 
Ive been looking up land mine risk in Morocco, it seems like the southern half of the border between Morocco and Algeria has some mines, and the border between Morocco and the Western Sahara is hevily mined. There is software on here for garmin GPS which has the knowen mined areas highlighted. What are peoples thoughts or experiences with land mine precautions? I dont think we should have any real danger on our route, but if were off the track in those regions, should we take some precautions or would we have to be seriously out of place and unlucky to find land mines?

Yea we are not going that far south, and the routes we are doing have been fairly well travelled, the book details where mines could possibly be, so we'll just stay away from those places, cause I really reallydon't want my ass blown off :D

I'm fairly well advanced with an itinery, and a super accurate gps route that we can actually use, will mail them over when I am finished.
 
Yea we are not going that far south, and the routes we are doing have been fairly well travelled, the book details where mines could possibly be, so we'll just stay away from those places, cause I really reallydon't want my ass blown off :D

I'm fairly well advanced with an itinery, and a super accurate gps route that we can actually use, will mail them over when I am finished.

Sounds good, i will hopfully be able draw that onto the Michilin map too. Have you got an idea for the leving date yet? Is your plan with the boats still got go to Santander, i assume the Algeciras - Ceuta crossing is best into Morocco too.
 
Sounds good, i will hopfully be able draw that onto the Michilin map too. Have you got an idea for the leving date yet? Is your plan with the boats still got go to Santander, i assume the Algeciras - Ceuta crossing is best into Morocco too.


Thinking 5 April, Ferry To Bilbao, Drive to Algericas, Ferry to Ceuta..


Do you speak any Frog(French) ?
 
No French unfortuantly, despite spending about a month there last year. I did want to learn, but its not easy.

The quotes ive been getting for the ferry to portsmouth-santander are coming out at around £320 eash way, is that the same to Bilbao? Ive run the figours, and it looks like it would cost me about £250 to drive from where i am seated to Algericas, including the dover-dunkirk transit. I have a couple of friends who are dead enthusiastic to come with me too, and ive got room for them, one of them i can have as a second driver for that leg, so im weighing up the options at the moment. I know how tedious and boring driving all the way across france is, not to mension the 1000 miles or so extra vehicle ware.
 
No French unfortuantly, despite spending about a month there last year. I did want to learn, but its not easy.

The quotes ive been getting for the ferry to portsmouth-santander are coming out at around £320 eash way, is that the same to Bilbao? Ive run the figours, and it looks like it would cost me about £250 to drive from where i am seated to Algericas, including the dover-dunkirk transit. I have a couple of friends who are dead enthusiastic to come with me too, and ive got room for them, one of them i can have as a second driver for that leg, so im weighing up the options at the moment. I know how tedious and boring driving all the way across france is, not to mension the 1000 miles or so extra vehicle ware.

If you go at silly Oclock you can get £5 tickets for a car and 2 peeps from dover to Calais.
 
just popped on P&O site dover Calais leaving at 01.50 is £25 for 2 peeps & a car.
 
TBH the ports-bilbao ferry is torture! If I had to do it again, I would drive I think. or drive down, ferry back? after driving around Moroc for a few weeks you may welcome the break of the ferry prior to going back to work.

just my thoughts
 

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