Is central heating LPG the same mix as Autogas?
Very little information around about what is actually in the stuff.
Peter
Very little information around about what is actually in the stuff.
Peter
nathan5346
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i feel like a parrot.... propane/butane mix 
i feel like a parrot.... propane/butane mix
Squawk!
You have stated that Autogas is a mixture, but I couldn't see any comment from you re the heating gas, which I think may be pure propane.
Peter
nathan5346
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OK, Listen very carefully i will say this only once (rennie) heating gas lpg is also propane/butane mix
I reckon its a mix cos.... butane burns hotter and propane has a lower point of freezing put the 2 together and you got a versatile gas that can be stored outside in low temperatures... thats my theory anyway
I reckon its a mix cos.... butane burns hotter and propane has a lower point of freezing put the 2 together and you got a versatile gas that can be stored outside in low temperatures... thats my theory anyway
Had a long chat with Peter Feachey of Energshift, they did the conversion on our Disco back in 2005 before we bought it, and he is going to fit the additional gas tank for us later on this year.
He says:
Autogas is basically Propane, generally only the Europeans mix the two gases for when the weather is cold, but we run in the UK on Propane.
Propane by itself is fine and is also cleaner, Butane is a bit 'dirty' by comparison.
Using the big 47kg red propane bottles is fine, but for the hassle of getting the gas out, putting up with the debris at the bottom of the cylinders and having to pump the stuff out, he reckons it just isn't worth the time and hassle.
Peter
He says:
Autogas is basically Propane, generally only the Europeans mix the two gases for when the weather is cold, but we run in the UK on Propane.
Propane by itself is fine and is also cleaner, Butane is a bit 'dirty' by comparison.
Using the big 47kg red propane bottles is fine, but for the hassle of getting the gas out, putting up with the debris at the bottom of the cylinders and having to pump the stuff out, he reckons it just isn't worth the time and hassle.
Peter
nathan5346
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My mate runs his off roader on this stuff, bottle in the boot off his fork lift truck.funny how suppliers say its a mix
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nathan5346
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aint that how the early lpg's years ago were run?
Possibly, but unless you get it free like he does, then its just as expensive as buying LPG.
Yep, we used to fit kits to Fork Trucks in the 1960's with gas conversions when I worked at Youngmans in Crawley. They were agents for Saxby (French) fork trucks with Peugeot 403 engines, still got a petrol pump somewhere that was taken off a new one.
There were limitations on performance, but more than adequate for the average fork truck user, the main reason was use in a food area, the exhaust was clean enough on gas to be used in food storage and production zones.
Peter
109SeriesIIA
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I have a bulk tank, 1200 litres. Costs me 60 a year to rent . See <http://www.extrafuel.co.uk> and the price I pay per litre is on their site. Currently 50.2p whereas locally autogas is 89p. I have no transfer pump , but I think the time has come... stangely enough I now do my household heating & HW to rads via coal (Dowling Sumo Stove to a Dunsley Neutralizer if you really wnated to know) beciuse of the mad price of LPG fr heating. Troubke is, coal won't run in my 109. I know this, I tried.
A pump will be coming soon.
A pump will be coming soon.
njh2
Active Member
....Hi....i didn't use gas from a red cylinder that wasn't left over at a festival once, by not attaching one of those pumps....it wasn't the scariest gas transfer i ever didn't do as it didn't have clear plastic pipe work so you couldn't see the gas........it didn't run really well.
Nick.
.Nick.
