Shimsteriom
Master Procrastinator
Has anyone fitted one of these to their D2 Td5?
Did it make a big difference?
Did it make a big difference?
swatts70
Active Member
I've just bought a lof clutch, single mass flywheel, rear crank seal and powerslave cylinder. Not fitted yet but bloody wheel hope they all make a difference.
Currently car shudders from cold on bite when pulling away and gear changes and is really awful to drive until its been driven for a bit.
Settles down if i hold it on bite on and off for a while and quite noisy too.
Fingers crossed it all works ok, been reading some good feedback about the LOF kit.
Currently car shudders from cold on bite when pulling away and gear changes and is really awful to drive until its been driven for a bit.
Settles down if i hold it on bite on and off for a while and quite noisy too.
Fingers crossed it all works ok, been reading some good feedback about the LOF kit.
Shimsteriom
Master Procrastinator
I look forward to hearing how it goes.
sierrafery
Well-Known Member
The single mass flywheel was a bad move IMO... i also fitted one long time ago based on some forumist's oppinions without knowing too much back then... i ended up paying twice for the job and a DMF after less than a month cos i was fed up with vibrations on motorway... maybe it's OK for off-road competition defenders but on a daily driver D2 is full of sh*t
jamesmartin
Well-Known Member
what the flywheel does
bankz5152
Well-Known Member
No the powerslave! Luk dmf + powerspec clutch
Its in addition, the pedal is light and easy to press. Unlike the original.
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Si Click
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The relevant phrase here is "long time ago". The LOF single mass flywheel bundle has been engineered to remove that vibration. My son fitted one with the HD release bearing to his TD5 D90 over lockdown and it is excellent. It is as smooth as a dual mass, but should last much longer.
https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clutch-kits/td5-smf-powerspec-bundle-everything-required/
sierrafery
Well-Known Member
And the relevant phrase in your post is
... i'm wondering how can a single mass flywheel(which is actually one piece of steel) remove any torsional shocks or vibrations
cos i doubt he can go so fast with that on motorway like with a tuned up D2 like mine cos as i said the vibrations were bad at motorway speed
... i'm wondering how can a single mass flywheel(which is actually one piece of steel) remove any torsional shocks or vibrations 
And the relevant phrase in your post is
cos i doubt he can go so fast with that on motorway like with a tuned up D2 like mine cos as i said the vibrations were bad at motorway speed
I've got an LOF solid mass flywheel fitted to my D2 and so far it has been very good.
sierrafery
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I'm sure it's better than a worn out DMF but IMO can't be better than a new one as it's not a torsional damper just a piece of solid steel, mine wasnt LOF cos it wasnt on the market at that time but i'd not put a single mass again one on mine whatsoever. If the valeo DMF which i fitted will last another 100K miles i'll not need to change it again in this life
jamesmartin
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pedal is easier to press either because clutch cover springs are weaker or pedal has assistance
Si Click
Well-Known Member
And the relevant phrase in your post is
cos i doubt he can go so fast with that on motorway like with a tuned up D2 like mine cos as i said the vibrations were bad at motorway speed
Beware assumptions. He is running a remapped TD5 with D2 transfer case and a great deal of acoustic matting. He usually runs at 65 for comfort, but will happily sit at 70 all day and can sustain 80 if need be. No vibrations whatsoever - other than those usually associated with a Defender. I don't doubt that early SMFs were dreadful, but LOF have spent a great deal of time and effort in overcoming those shortfalls and are marketing what I and many others consider to be an excellent product. Perhaps you should try something before you pass judgement on it.
sierrafery
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Maybe but it's against my logic right now to fit a solid piece of steel regardless of how it's built instead of a torsional vibration damper that's all... i've seen others happy with solid crank pulley made on lathe but that's another thing i won't do just to have a part which endures more than the engine and gearbox
bankz5152
Well-Known Member
Its not the cover springs, it will have additional assistance from the new slave..
The slave has been changed. Swap back to the AP unit and the pedal is harder to push again.
The slave was changed almost a year after the LOF clutch kit was fitted.
Its a different design to oem/AP Slave giving a lighter pedal. LOF also supply a new master which does the same.
jamesmartin
Well-Known Member
is the slave a different diameter and longer stroke
bankz5152
Well-Known Member
Longer stroke I believe could also be a different diameter. I couldnt tell you as I dont know!
What I do know is its made my 110 a hell of a lot easier to drive and has been fitted for 18 months now roughly 20k miles and still spot on.
jamesmartin
Well-Known Member
good to know i have customers that complain of stiff pedal i wasnt aware there was another slave option
bankz5152
Well-Known Member
Yeah. Slave is easier to fit and does need more bleeding however if the masters gone may as well change that!
I would think a slave of wider diameter would give more pressure for equal pressure from the pedal. Although it would initially need more travel, once the slave has got to the point where it is doing its job then it wouldn't need to move far at all. So maybe that is the answer.
Only other way to make it easier would be to give it servo assistance and there are ways of doing that too.
All of which can still be done without reducing the pressure of the springs in the clutch cover plate and you would not want to do that as that would stop the clutch acting as it should, would promote possible slip and early wear etc.
Only other way to make it easier would be to give it servo assistance and there are ways of doing that too.
All of which can still be done without reducing the pressure of the springs in the clutch cover plate and you would not want to do that as that would stop the clutch acting as it should, would promote possible slip and early wear etc.
