tom1979 said:

I'd ask Britpart - the DA6282 page clearly states they are DOT & E-mark certified. I would think a company like Britpart would state "for off road use" if they are not road legal, but they also do not state that they are. They are not a small company anymore and somebody would presumably have looked at all this before they started importing them.

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tom1979 said:

Worth asking them, although they don't state they are road legal they do give that impression and if you've bought them on the understanding they are road legal and it transpires they are not then they'd have to have them back or supply something similar that is road legal.

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JimS said:

I've sent them a mail, let's see if they reply....

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tom1979 said:

No reply from Britpart then?!

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JimS said:

Just looking through my inbox and I did actually get a response from Britpart on their LynxEye DA6282 range of LED headlights

With reference to your recent e mail regarding the DA6282 lights. I can confirm the lights do have the DOT marking etched into the glass, it is on the bottom left of the lens and the E mark is on the right. I have attached a picture for your reference. It is etched in the glass and so is not very clear, but can be made out. These are LED lights and are road legal, I have been told it is the HID lights that are becoming illegal.

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Regards


So given the response from Britpart it would imply no problems at MOT but I will let you all know in June....

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4.2.2.1. On headlamps meeting left-hand traffic requirements only, a horizontal arrow pointing to the right of an observer facing the headlamp, i.e. to the side of the road on which the traffic moves;

4.2.2.2. On headlamps designed to meet the requirements of both traffic systems by means of an appropriate adjustment of the setting of the optical unit or the filament lamp or LED module(s), a horizontal arrow with a head on each end, the heads pointing respectively to the left and to the right;

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leeds said:

So the UK version of the Britpart LED headlights have DOT SAE markings on?

DOT stands for the USA Department of Transport and is a standard used in Central and N America.

Now it would be possible for a high beam ONLY headlight to have meet both the DOT and UNECE technical requirements.

The light pattern requirements for them in low beam is different.

Now North America drives on the right whereas the UK drives on the left and I can not readily see a light manufacturer ensuring LHT/RHD headlights being DOT compliant

Vision X and Truck-Lite both American companies certainly do not mark their UK specification headlights with DOT and SAE.

So that raises a question mark over the Britpart lights.


Next question mark UNECE regulations state



That is part of the APPROVAL mark. I can not see it in the photograph of the Britpart approval markings.

The arrows are present on the Vision X and Truck-Lite UK specification lights.

That does raise some questions about the full legality of the Britpart LED headlights.

I do not have the Britpart LED headlights, I can understand that retail customers buying these lights believe that they are 100% road legal.

However I think that Britpart needs to explain WHY their UK specification dipped and main beam headlights

1) Carry the DOT markings

2) Why they do not carry the LHT/RHD arrow as required


Brendan

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JimS said:

I think the front glass is common for all markets, the rear reflector and LED set up changes to suit the market, and they have, for stock reasons, not stocked two sets of front glass with L/R respective arrows
So it will be interesting to see what they have to say (I have asked them)

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rob1miles said:

My understanding (and always happy to be corrected, that's how I learn) it that headlights are approved as a light unit/bulb combination so while the appraval makings are on the glass they actually apply to the glass / bulb assembly as tested. I beleive this is the issue behind the problems of after market HID bulbs as they negate the approval for the assembly. While this would also be true of after market LED bulbs too I think the situation for LEDs is a bit different. Aftermarket HIDs caused an issue because the beam patterns were so obviously wrong, but if the LED manufactures can position the LED centre in the same location as the bulb filiament then functionally they would be the same beam pattern. I've been lookiing closely at LED H4s and some look like a lot of effort has gone into getting the design right for an H4 match. I would be comfortable fitting these and argueing that while not explicitly approved they are a legitmate equivalent and not signficantyl different to fitting any other H4 filiament bulb that was not the identical one used in the type tests.

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leeds said:

Have just had a thought.

Are they working on a British/American light pattern?

If so that is a flatter beam pattern with no kick up on the U. K. near side.

Now IF that is the case it might possibly negate the need for the LHT arrow. Whilst it might get around the need for stocking different models for different market place it does restrict the throw of light onto the near side verge/pavement.

Now if Britpart uses the British/American light pattern reason now we could possibly assume they are getting information off this forum rather then using their own technical knowledge?


Brendan

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