what I am trying to say is the cost of gas is nothing compared to the finish product you will get. with using gas, you will save money on grinding discs for your side grinder
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
I'm certainly no pro but having used both a fair bit my advice is work out how much you can afford to spend on a new gasless and then spend it on a 2nd hand gas rig 
freelanderoig
Active Member
you do get a bit of slag on gasless
not with clean metal. you might get a bunch of goobers, that you have to grind off..
Zed.
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work out how much you can afford to spend on a new gasless and then spend it on a 2nd hand gas rig
+1
Rich. (uses sealey supermig 185... owned & still going strong 20+ years but it's had a few umbilical's!
BOC Argoshield Light / .6 & .8 wire on bodywork)
chris7
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I could go on and on about the IMMENSE PLEASURE I get from OXY/ACETYLENE welding BUT I wont!
You are all praising that NEW FANGLED GISMO. the MIG welder and I don't blame you!
BUT if you get pleasure from TRICKY and you love the OLD FASHIONED like I do?
Then go oxy/acetylene !! If only simply to not making it just a CHORE
SO All you 21st century mig welders!
Lets hear it for the 20th CENTURY gas welding BAD BOYS
CHRIS
You are all praising that NEW FANGLED GISMO. the MIG welder and I don't blame you!
BUT if you get pleasure from TRICKY and you love the OLD FASHIONED like I do?
Then go oxy/acetylene !! If only simply to not making it just a CHORE
SO All you 21st century mig welders!
Lets hear it for the 20th CENTURY gas welding BAD BOYS
CHRIS
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micknkatenki
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not with clean metal. you might get a bunch of goobers, that you have to grind off..
What were the "proper settings" out of interest.
That'll depend on what you are trying to weld ...
jamesmartin
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it depends from welder to welder and what thickness your welding,practise will show you it becomes obvious when you have too little or too much same with wire speed
micknkatenki
Active Member
Yes very true I suppose, just looking to compare as a guide
micknkatenki
Active Member
I have a gas sealey 170, most welds look good but not always strong weld, but I guess like you say practice practice practice...
jamesmartin
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are you using enough power to penetrate, weld should go to the opposite side when welding a chassis piece
Have you looked at the MIG welding site ....
Has loads of tips and advice ... http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/
Has loads of tips and advice ... http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/
Vintage-and-Classic
Active Member
Gas welding is the biz
Once you learn to do it properly *and* learn to control the distortion then you can tackle stuff which just leaves everything else in its wake! I do a lot of TIG which is superb for fine quality work but nothing will ever replace the versatility and ability of oxy acetylene.
If you can gas weld then you truly understand the process and can quickly turn your hand to every other technique.
Vintage-and-Classic
Active Member
Lets also hear it for the many Technical Colleges we have in this country. I get to see an awful lot of p*ss poor welds in my job but you rarely see anything other than competence from someone who has been to a "Tech" and learned to do it properly.
jamesmartin
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i learned with gas and stick ,migs were the new thing at the time ,gas is something like a lathe people should learn but things move on which is why gas is rarely usedGas welding is the biz
Once you learn to do it properly *and* learn to control the distortion then you can tackle stuff which just leaves everything else in its wake! I do a lot of TIG which is superb for fine quality work but nothing will ever replace the versatility and ability of oxy acetylene.
If you can gas weld then you truly understand the process and can quickly turn your hand to every other technique.
Just like in machining, lathes, mills, shappers, before cnc came along. operator needed to how to do stuff. Now days a machinist just loads the material and pushes a button, then takes the parts out when finshed
