Ryder said:
Cheers Mike, that's my opinion too. He's rarely in the vehicle on his own, and when he is it is only to move it out of someone else's way or to move it to a safe distance while we watch a recovery. A lot of the members on here have seen how we are at P&P and it does make me cross when people make such scathing comments, generalising about things they seems to have little understanding of.
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I will just ad that Muddy offered me a trip out so don't take stuff he said too badly.
I agree with the part about people have seen you before. People have seen me too and I don't think anyone can say I'm a hazard. I always do my fair share of recovering people too (It's only fair). Opinions should be based on individuals not generalisations. I will accept being told "you are a danger" but not "teenagers are a danger" if that makes sense. As long as someone have actually watched me, they can tell me I've done wrong because that's how we all learn.
 
Sorry I was taught to drive at 14 by a hgv examiner (my dad) he taught me how to control the vehicle and how it responds in almost every situation. Offroad driving IS one of the best ways of learning how your vehicle will perform in situations not normal on our roads summer or winter. My neices have driven since they could reach the pedals. They have been taught and I believe are safer than the average youngster that has learnt how to pas a driving test and not learnt how to drive. As Ryder has said you can take part from 8yo I believe in JVT with an MSA license and Tyro (unlicensed drivers) from 14. In our local club the tyro drivers most are around 15 or 16 yo would knock the socks off alot of adults on Landy Zone I have no doubt!
 
Hi Everyone that has taken the time to read and comment on this thread. Thanks for the PM's of support. I have gained alot of useful information so am extremely chuffed that I asked the question. If the junior driver in question does choose to move forward with their driving, then they have right information to do so.
If you do happen bump in to the junior in question ( NOT LITERALLY) she'll proberly be driving something in dayglo PINK.
 
Oh dear not pink. Suppose nobody can claim they didn't see her. Think I'll put some chevrons on mine for the same reason.
 
Having younger people drive is great and I have been teaching juniors not just in off roading but rallycross, but the problem is the insurance side, as a company we have full insurance. Any one entering a pay play site have the right to ensure others around have some form of insurance. Brokers will easily cover clubs for this type of think.
 
good luck to the young driver! i remember when i first drove a car, at 14 i will add! it was great and i learnt stuff then for my driving test oh and by the way minis and fields aint that good
 
Having read this from the start, I couldn't understand what the fuss was about as all the off road trials events I have attended and participated in have all been through a club which is MSA approved and recongnised. As such, drivers in all sorts of vehicles take part although in seperate classes.
As far as I know, teenagers are allowed (BADlrc), vehicles aren't required to be taxed, MOT'd or even road worthy (but must pass scrutineering to the scrutineers satisfaction) and events are marshalled, vehicles compete their stage one at a time and it really is an enjoyable event, even in a couple of hundred quids worth of scrap Discovery that was driven to destruction.
I for one am in support of letting juniors drive, sooner the better, my 15 year old son has been banger racing since he was 12 and loves every second of it.
 
Hamster97 said:
Having read this from the start, I couldn't understand what the fuss was about as all the off road trials events I have attended and participated in have all been through a club which is MSA approved and recongnised. As such, drivers in all sorts of vehicles take part although in seperate classes.
As far as I know, teenagers are allowed (BADlrc), vehicles aren't required to be taxed, MOT'd or even road worthy (but must pass scrutineering to the scrutineers satisfaction) and events are marshalled, vehicles compete their stage one at a time and it really is an enjoyable event, even in a couple of hundred quids worth of scrap Discovery that was driven to destruction.
I for one am in support of letting juniors drive, sooner the better, my 15 year old son has been banger racing since he was 12 and loves every second of it.
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In the main bulk of the conversation we were discussing pay n plays not club events
 
Muddy Gonzo said:
In the main bulk of the conversation we were discussing pay n plays not club events
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Ye, the Pay & Plays probably aren't the best idea for Jnrs when organisations accept them and take the proper precautions and have their own liability insurance in place.

A much better solution to the OP's question.
 
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