Colthebrummie · Mar 30, 2019

It's about time car makers built jacks into the structure of the vehicle instead of poncing about with with all this expensive and prone to failure safety malarkey such as head lamps that follow you around a corner or useless emissions gizmos.

Col

landowner · Mar 30, 2019

Ford V8 Pilot had jacks built in, pump under the bonnet

Nodge68 · Mar 30, 2019

Colthebrummie said:
It's about time car makers built jacks into the structure of the vehicle instead of poncing about with with all this expensive and prone to failure safety malarkey such as head lamps that follow you around a corner or useless emissions gizmos.

Col

They won't do that. The car manufacturers want dealers to do all the work, and eliminate DIY motor repairs altogether.

Colthebrummie · Mar 30, 2019

Nodge68 said:
They won't do that. The car manufacturers want dealers to do all the work, and eliminate DIY motor repairs altogether.

I agree but it's a right pain getting a puncture late at night in the pouring rain. A built in Jack would halve the hassle and be a lot safer than the crappy scissor jacks they supply. I guess they are worried that such a in-built Jack might fail and result in a humongous claim for damages.

Col

Alibro · Mar 30, 2019

Madmustang said:
Yep I jacked it up on the middle cross member either side of the car. Result....One cross member buckled and the other one collapsed resulting in a new section needed to be welded in

Sorry for being stupid but what do you mean by cross member?

Alibro · Mar 30, 2019

Colthebrummie said:
I agree but it's a right pain getting a puncture late at night in the pouring rain. A built in Jack would halve the hassle and be a lot safer than the crappy scissor jacks they supply. I guess they are worried that such a in-built Jack might fail and result in a humongous claim for damages.

Col

You must be kidding!
Car manufacturers have even done away with spare wheels.

I read somewhere that the reflation kits they supply work in less than 60% of punctures which means they are quite happy for drivers to be left stranded more than 40% of the time they get a puncture.

I wish someone would sue the b*$%*£$%s for leaving them stranded.

Nodge68 · Mar 30, 2019

Alibro said:
I read somewhere that the reflation kits they supply work in less than 60% of punctures which means they are quite happy for drivers to be left stranded more than 40% of the time they get a puncture.

Our new Mazda CX5 doesn't have a spare or inflation kit. If it gets a flat, we'll have to wait for the RAC to take us to where the tyre can be replaced.

That's not going to be easy, as it has 19 inch wheels fitted.

Alibro · Mar 30, 2019

Nodge68 said:
Our new Mazda CX5 doesn't have a spare or inflation kit. If it gets a flat, we'll have to wait for the RAC to take us to where the tyre can be replaced. That's not going to be easy, as it has 19 inch wheels fitted.

That's disgusting and shameful on the part of Mazda Nodge,
I don't know if it's the case for your car but most have the space for a spare but don't supply it. If our government could dig themselves out of the shambles they've created they should make it a legal obligation to supply a spare with all cars.
Even a space saver is better than nothing. Remember how we whinged about them???

Nodge68 · Mar 30, 2019

Alibro said:
I don't know if it's the case for your car but most have the space for a spare but don't supply it.

It has space for a space saver rim, but they wanted nearly £600 to supply one with the car. Being that it's a lease car, there was no way I was going to cough up that kind of cash, on top of the advanced payment, especially as it comes with free RAC for the lease agreement term.

Alibro · Mar 30, 2019

Nodge68 said:
It has space for a space saver rim, but they wanted nearly £600 to supply one with the car. Being that it's a lease car, there was no way I was going to cough up that kind of cash, on top of the advanced payment, especially as it comes with free RAC for the lease agreement term.

I live in the country, down a long lane so I get more punctures than most. Last company car I got I insisted they supplied a spare wheel. The boss whinged a bit but relented and I ended up rescuing my colleagues on three occasions when they got punctures. Any time they had to wait for the AA they lost most of the day.
After that the company made it policy that all cars had a spare.

Colthebrummie · Mar 31, 2019

Those tyre sealant cans are a waste of time. I've had to resort to them a couple of times and they were useless on both occasions. They might be ok for a relatively slow puncture but when a tyre lets go suddenly, tyre sealant just don't work.

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