cornish rattler

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Hi guys

Is it legal to have the front reg plate screwed to the N/S air vent flap, i have just bought a winch bumper and as i have seen other defender's fitted with the reg plate fitted there thought it should be legal but have been told it isn't what do you think ?
 
It int. . Regs say front of vehicle and visible from all anges at a set distance. This is to make sure camera's can get a clear pic of the number. But no fecker ever bothers.
 
It int. . Regs say front of vehicle and visible from all anges at a set distance. This is to make sure camera's can get a clear pic of the number. But no fecker ever bothers.

Visible from the from the front but do they actually say at the front?

Mines above the windscreen an tis sposed to be there
 
All angles?

try looking at one from 181 degrees :p

But then yu'd be behind the plate.. so not in front if it..

Visible from the from the front but do they actually say at the front?

Mines above the windscreen an tis sposed to be there

It say front of vehicle where practical. So sports cars like GTO's etc can have it on the slope of the bonnet. ALso imports can have it whereever Manufacturers fitted it. (This applies to size, shape and font size anorl) IIRC.

will google link. Tho if ya did a fecking search you'd find it on ere sumwhere. :roleyes:
 
Fixing of front registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date

6. (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.

(2) Except as provided in paragraph (5), a registration plate must be fixed on the front of the vehicle in the manner required by paragraph (3).

(3) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed—

(a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable,

(b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (4).

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/part/II/made


Bit vague, says on the front but not at the front.

Seems more concerned that it's as near vertical as practicable and visable from a perscribed area (presumably dependant on vehicle size/type or summink)
 
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4. In this Part the following expressions shall have the following meanings—

“diagonal length”, in relation to a relevant area, means the length of a line drawn diagonally across the square enclosing the area (so that the extent of the relevant area is thereby delimited);

“relevant area”, in relation to a registration plate, means the area contained in a square described on the ground—
(a)

in front of the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the front of the vehicle, and
(b)

behind the vehicle in the case of a plate fixed on the rear of the vehicle,

where one corner of the square is immediately below the middle of the plate and the diagonal of the square from that corner is parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle;

“relevant type-approval directive” means—
(a)

in the case of a motor cycle, motor tricycle or quadricycle—
(i)

Council Directive 93/94/EEC(1) (as amended by Commission Directive 99/26/EC(2)) as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii)

Council Directive 93/92/EEC(3) as regards the rear registration plate lamp;
(b)

in the case of any other vehicle or a trailer—
(i)

Council Directive 70/222/EEC(4) as regards the space to be provided for fixing of the rear registration plate, and
(ii)

Council Directive 76/760/EEC(5) (as amended by Commission Directive 97/31/EC(6)) as regards the rear registration plate lamp.

Fixing of rear registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date

5. (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.

(2) A registration plate must be fixed on the rear of—

(a)the vehicle, or

(b)where the vehicle is towing a trailer, the trailer, or

(c)where the vehicle is towing more than one trailer, the rearmost trailer.

(3) Where a vehicle (or, in a case where the plate is required to be fixed on a trailer, that trailer) has been constructed so as to satisfy the requirements of the relevant type-approval directive, whether or not it is required by law to satisfy them, the plate may be fixed in the space provided in accordance with those requirements but if it is not so fixed it must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).

(4) Except as provided in paragraph (3) the plate must be fixed in the manner required by paragraph (5).

(5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed—

(a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and

(b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).

(6) The diagonal length of the relevant area is—

(a)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,

(b)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,

(c)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres.
Fixing of front registration plates: vehicles registered on or after the relevant date

6. (1) This regulation applies to vehicles, other than works trucks, road rollers and agricultural machines, first registered on or after the relevant date.

(2) Except as provided in paragraph (5), a registration plate must be fixed on the front of the vehicle in the manner required by paragraph (3).

(3) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed—

(a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable,

(b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (4).

(4) The diagonal length of the relevant area is—

(a)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is at least 57 millimetres, 22 metres,

(b)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 50 millimetres, 21.5 metres,

(c)in the case of a mark having characters the width of which is 44 millimetres, 18 metres.
 
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Road Traffic Act Construction & Use regulations

****PLEASE IGNORE UNLESS DRIVING IN MAURITIUS******

60. Fixing of registration plate
(1) (a) Where a vehicle has been so designed that a space has been provided for the fixing of a registration plate, the plate shall be fixed in the space so provided.
( Where a space is not provided the plate shall be fixed in the manner specified in
paragraph (2).
(2) Subject to paragraph (3), a registration plate shall be fixed vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practical at the front and rear of every motor vehicle in such manner that the characters of the registration mark shall, at all times, be visible from the front or the rear of the motor vehicle.
(3) No registration plate shall be fixed in the front of a trailer.
(4) Where a trailer or a semi-trailer is drawn by another vehicle, the registration plate of the drawing vehicle shall be fixed on the back right-hand side and that of the trailer or semi-trailer on the back left-hand side of the trailer or semi-trailer.
(5) A registration plate shall be fixed at a height of not more than 1.5 metres from ground level.


Read a few posts further ya muppet.....that's the Mauritius regs :p
 
HGV construction and use regs used to say that if you draw a square on the ground with the corner of that square on the plate you should be able to read the plate from anyhere whithin that square, cant remember how big the square was but say 30 foot sides for instance
 
One issue I'd see with mounting it on the vent flap is when you opened the vent, you wouldn't be able to read the plate. Might be able to mount it off to one side of the winch bumper?
 
Yeah if I wasn't fitting a winch then i would just screw it to the front of the bumper where the farlead would go so think i will fit it to the air vent flap for now and see what happens :)
 
Yeah if I wasn't fitting a winch then i would just screw it to the front of the bumper where the farlead would go so think i will fit it to the air vent flap for now and see what happens :)

Someone was doing spring clips that clipped between the fairlead rollers fer number plates
 
I have my plate on the N/S vent, it's been there for a year or so and I've had no issues. Living in North Wales I'm used to the Police pulling people for the slightest thing (all be it when I'm on the bike) so I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue. It's obvious I'm not trying to hide anything as it's full size and clear to see so I don't think they're bothered.

I don't use the vent really and since putting the winch bumper on it was the best place to mount the plate.
 

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