tam cochrane
Member
Hi folks I'm going to relocate to Ireland this year and taking my 1985 110 along [ well it's actually there now but not transferred yet ] any advice from you regarding NCT insurance etc there is no compare the market in ireland
saxavordian
Well-Known Member
Being thick Brexiteer here,
does ROI not come under EU car insurance rules.
Ironstrike
Well-Known Member
The NCT in Ireland based on the German TUV and is quite strict, in fact when the NCT was introduces they brought over a lot of German mechanics to start it off. Insurance is an absolute rip off no matter what company you go with. There are a few price comparison sites in Ireland but I'm not sure how good they are.
tam cochrane
Member
It would be a new policy so it would start from scratch any uk no claims won't applyBeing thick Brexiteer here,
Ironstrike
Well-Known Member
Your road tax will be around 1000 euros too. Not knowing your age etc I would guess your insurance will be around 800 with 0 years ncb. But I would try, as long as your UK ncb was earned within the last year they might accept it.
saxavordian
Well-Known Member
ouch is the road tax reflection of eu policy or a Irish one.
Ironstrike
Well-Known Member
Its a home grown rip off. In reply to EU targets on pollution and emissions. The usual response to anything like that, put more tax on it instead of dealing with it, same with alcohol, cigarettes, etc. The go to strategy is tax it.
tam cochrane
Member
Road tax comes under classic as more than 30 years old it's the insurance that concerns
Nodge68
Well-Known Member
That's a British thing.
Will that still apply in ROI?
tam cochrane
Member
Yes mate costs 50 euros a year
Ironstrike
Well-Known Member
They were talking about changing that a few years ago before I left. They still want to test post 1980 vehicles to the same standard as modern vehicles though and the Irish RSA seem to have a policy of wanting to push classic vehicles off the road. Some insurers wont insure them and if you are carrying tools etc you should be paying full commercial tax. It s a pain in the ass. Some reading from the RSA
Prior to 2010, passenger cars tested at the NCT became exempt from testing on reaching the 30th anniversary of first registration. At the time, this was changed to pre-1980 vehicles to gradually bring Ireland more in line with the current roadworthiness Directive, and also because the RSA believed that vehicles which were 30 years old were still relatively modern and in frequent use on Irish roads. Therefore they should be subject to testing. It is still the RSA view that aligning with the minimum requirements of the new Directive could result in too many modern vehicles which are still in regular use being exempt from testing, leading to an increase in the number of vehicles with potentially dangerous defects using Irish roads. However, by providing an exemption based on a rolling period of 40 years, this Option recognises that as vehicles become older they are used less on public roads, other than for the purposes of taking part in vintage rallies or display. Based on current NVDF records, granting an exemption to vehicles on reaching the 30th anniversary of first registration from the scope compulsory testing today would result in approximately 2,000 vehicles not having to undergo compulsory testing. This figure would increase year on year. For example, based on current stats another 100 vehicles would drop outside the scope of compulsory testing in 2015. Therefore, under this Option, the RSA is instead proposing to only exempt those vehicles used for social and domestic purposes form the scope of compulsory testing on reaching the 40th anniversary of first registration. 8.4 Option 4 – Exempt Vehicles Used for Social and Domestic Purposes which are 30 years old or more from Compulsory Roadworthiness Testing Vintage Vehicles Consultation 17 Under this Option vehicles used for social and domestic purposes which are more than 30 years old would be exempt from testing. This Option is in line with the minimum requirements of Directive 2014/45/EC effective from May 2018. However, it would not be in line with the current approach in other Member States, and as set out in 8.3 above, the RSA has concerns that this Option could lead to increased numbers of older vehicles being used for purposes other than taking part in vintage rallies or display. 9 Enforcement Implementing any of the proposed options outlined in Sections 8.1 to 8.4 above may require changes to current systems to ensure that vehicles used for commercial purposes comply with the obligation to be tested. Currently, the owners/operators of Public Service Vehicles (PSV’s) must present proof that their vehicle(s) have passed a statutory roadworthiness inspection at either the NCT or CVRT (as appropriate) before being licensed for use for hire and reward purposes. A positive check is also carried out that the vehicles owned/operated by prospective applicants for a Road Passenger Transport Operators Licence (RPTOL) are in receipt of a valid Certificate of Roadworthiness (CRW). The same applies in respect of vehicles owned/operated by prospective applicants for a Road Transport Operators Licence (RTOL). However, the obligation to hold either a RPTOL or an RTOL (as appropriate) does not apply to the owners/operators of vehicles used for the transport of their own passengers / goods. Furthermore the vintage/veteran motor tax classification does not contain a ‘use’ aspect, i.e. it is awarded provided the applicant satisfies the licensing authority that the vehicle in respect of which the licence is sought was Vintage Vehicles Consultation 18 constructed more than 30 years prior to the commencement of the period in respect of which the licence is sought. Effective enforcement is key to ensuring that all owners / operators of vintage vehicles used in a commercial capacity comply with the obligation to undergo compulsory roadworthiness testing. The following options to support effective enforcement are being considered: 1. Modifying the description of the vintage/veteran tax classification in motor tax legislation to ensure that a ‘use’ aspect is inserted, i.e. the rate payable would apply to vehicles which are more than 30 years old being used for social and domestic purposes only. Vehicle owners would have to declare this when applying for the vintage/veteran tax classification. It would cover use relating to taking part in vintage rallies or display etc. However vintage vehicles used for commercial purposes (even on a part time basis) would be required to be taxed at the equivalent public service/goods vehicle rate as appropriate. 2. Requiring owners of vintage vehicles to declare that they are used for social and domestic purposes only. This information would be recorded on the NVDF database which is accessible to enforcement officers conducting roadside checks. As part of the review the RSA will further investigate these proposals as a means of ensuring that effective enforcement can take place.
David Leech
Well-Known Member
Whereabouts are you moving to Tam?
You can get Classic insurance but only on a second policy, you must have a 'primary' vehicle insured too. I think most of the companies impose a mileage limit too, in the region of 5,000ish.....
You can get Classic insurance but only on a second policy, you must have a 'primary' vehicle insured too. I think most of the companies impose a mileage limit too, in the region of 5,000ish.....
tam cochrane
Member
Moving to cork mate and we will have other cars also
tam cochrane
Member
DaveM-sport
Active Member
I'm live in Cork so if want any help or anything, drop me a pm.
You will have to nct it being an 1985 but only every two years as they changes it recently for cars over 30 and tax will only be 50 quid a year.
As mentioned If you've another car that you'll mainly use or use for work, you'll be able to get a classic insurance policy on the landy. Will have a mileage restriction alright of 3 or 5k a year but should only be couple hundred euro a year. If you've other older cars, you'll be able to add these onto the classic policy too for very little.
As for the nct being strict and based on the German tuv, not sure where that info came from as tuv is far more particular.
On paper, it's strict but in practice it just depends on the tester and his mood lol.
Nct center in Cork isn't too bad at all anyway and if its able to pass an mot, it'll have no issue at all passing an nct and as I said, it'll only have to do one every two years now that it's over 30.
You will have to vrt it or other cars to put them on irish plates but you get one free vrt in your lifetime if you've owned a car and lived in the country its coming from for more than 6 months.
Vrt for the series or cars over 30 years now will be cheap so I'd use the free pass to import something abit more valuable.
You will have to nct it being an 1985 but only every two years as they changes it recently for cars over 30 and tax will only be 50 quid a year.
As mentioned If you've another car that you'll mainly use or use for work, you'll be able to get a classic insurance policy on the landy. Will have a mileage restriction alright of 3 or 5k a year but should only be couple hundred euro a year. If you've other older cars, you'll be able to add these onto the classic policy too for very little.
As for the nct being strict and based on the German tuv, not sure where that info came from as tuv is far more particular.
On paper, it's strict but in practice it just depends on the tester and his mood lol.
Nct center in Cork isn't too bad at all anyway and if its able to pass an mot, it'll have no issue at all passing an nct and as I said, it'll only have to do one every two years now that it's over 30.
You will have to vrt it or other cars to put them on irish plates but you get one free vrt in your lifetime if you've owned a car and lived in the country its coming from for more than 6 months.
Vrt for the series or cars over 30 years now will be cheap so I'd use the free pass to import something abit more valuable.
tam cochrane
Member
Thanks for that Dave one of our cars is a 97 Merc don't think that will qualify it cost us 1800 to register it over here
