landowner said:
Mornin,
Bright white and cold here
I think I've been trolled, is that what you call it ?
I thought that I would put my camper hinged seat idea on transit camper site ... bad idea !!!

I have been informed that my stupidity in doing this will probably kill both me and my passenger
Seat hinges not crash tested, seat will rip from base in an accident, base will rip from floor
Asked what is the point if it has to be bolted down on one side
Informed that having batteries under seat will cause hydrogen gas to build up and cause an explosion,
Informed that batteries must be fastened down and terminals protected or else (job not finished)
Told that my insurance will now be invalid
I've been laughed at and called names even by a camper builder company
Mostly very negative comments speculating doom and gloom
Couple of good folk saying it's a good idea but beginning to wonder if it's worth sharing in future

Is it me ?? :D
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Think they'll find that transits have two batteries under the driver seat anyway. Whats this forum im going to join & kid on im BOB 🤣 🤣
 
Hippo said:
Eye looked it up. Its still current law and modded recently for other stuff. Cars are safe to leave in park on tick over. Yer need two actions to put an auto in gear to move. Merkins manage it but their cars aredaft. Yer not allowd to leave a car running unattended. Thats a different pat of the law.
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As we have tweo autos to drive, we both know that a move from P to another gear is needed to get the car moving but the point is that if you leave a kid or even a dog in a car it might be possible for it to push the lever into say D. although nowadays most cars have a button you need to push too. But W's Pluriel, all you need to do is push the lever forward or back. Then put a foot on the accelerator.;)
 
Brown said:
I think even the rather dilatory Leicestershire constabulary would take an interest in me if I started taking pot shots at my neighbours. I think I'll leave them to their packets of mysterious white powder and synthetic cannabinoids, washed down with convenience store lager, and nature will surely take its course.
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Only ever been to Leicester once and that was in about 1974. Had a girlfriend whose mum lectured in I think Physics at the uni, her dad was a sort of hall tutor type person at Loughborough uni so he had free accomodation. Mebbes that would be a way of doing it? He lectured in a sciency or mathy subject too. Girlfriend was having a year out working at Bath uni, where I worked.
(Seems to be a lot of "uni" in this post!)
Spect they don't have these nice little numbers any more.:(
And Leicester didn't seem too rough back then.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
As we have tweo autos to drive, we both know that a move from P to another gear is needed to get the car moving but the point is that if you leave a kid or even a dog in a car it might be possible for it to push the lever into say D. although nowadays most cars have a button you need to push too. But W's Pluriel, all you need to do is push the lever forward or back. Then put a foot on the accelerator.;)
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You sure?

The p38 has a button on the lever to lift before you can move it always got me foot on the brake anyway have been told thats not part of the interlock. the L322 I cant turn me knob till I put my foot on the brake.

Its such an automatic thing you don't know your actually doing it.

J
 
marjon said:
You sure?

The p38 has a button on the lever to lift before you can move it always got me foot on the brake anyway have been told thats not part of the interlock. the L322 I cant turn me knob till I put my foot on the brake.

Its such an automatic thing you don't know your actually doing it.

J
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Course I'm sure, I drive the flipping thing most days!!
It isn't a proper auto, its a flappy paddle "sensotronic" thing. So it don't creep if you push on the lever, it'll just sit there until you put a foot on the accelerator as if it had an inertia clutch, which it doesn't have, (it has yet another pooter to activate the clutch which is an akshhool proper clutch. The gear changes also have a servo as well, nothing simple on the wretched thing.)
So if it is on a slope you have to use the handbrake or a foot on the footbrake to hold it there.
The only interlock is that you cannot start it without a foot on the brake.
W's previous car, a small vauxhall, was a proper auto and yes you had to start it with a foot on the footbrake, but you could move it into D with just the lever and a button, we think! twas a while back!
The Disco has a button on the front of the lever you have to push to move it into a gear although you can move from D to 3 and back without pushing the button. Can start it standing outside the car provided it is in neutral or P and the brake doesn't even have to be on.
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Course I'm sure, I drive the flipping thing most days!!
It isn't a proper auto, its a flappy paddle "sensotronic" thing. So it don't creep if you push on the lever, it'll just sit there until you put a foot on the accelerator as if it had an inertia clutch, which it doesn't have, (it has yet another pooter to activate the clutch which is an akshhool proper clutch. The gear changes also have a servo as well, nothing simple on the wretched thing.)
So if it is on a slope you have to use the handbrake or a foot on the footbrake to hold it there.
The only interlock is that you cannot start it without a foot on the brake.
W's previous car, a small vauxhall, was a proper auto and yes you had to start it with a foot on the footbrake, but you could move it into D with just the lever and a button, we think! twas a while back!
The Disco has a button on the front of the lever you have to push to move it into a gear although you can move from D to 3 and back without pushing the button. Can start it standing outside the car provided it is in neutral or P and the brake doesn't even have to be on.
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Oh ere missus:handbag:

But lets see, so two actions needed for a proper auto and the french, well they did it the french way I guess

Wrong side of the bed today Stan?

J
 
Hippo said:
It was you. Yer told us yer posted it.

They raise some valid points to fink about. If said points have been covered then all is ok. It would be a mod yer need to tell yer insurance about. But eye guess yer vehicle is already modified quite a bit. Hinges can look strong but in a crash the force would be on the metal pin through the hinge. They ain't always that strong. Hinge would tare from one end first normally if a large force like a crash were applied.
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Insurance is covered, swivel seat base declared etc etc
I think the weak point in the standard seat fixing would be where the runners bolt to the seat box, it's a lip around the top and can be bent with a pair of pliers. My hinges are bolted to the upright sides vertically so much stronger.

If the van were to crash with enough force to break those big hinges I think the passenger would be a gonner anyway, after working with Land Rovers I usually over engineer things so it's safe as houses :)
 
Stanleysteamer said:
As we have tweo autos to drive, we both know that a move from P to another gear is needed to get the car moving but the point is that if you leave a kid or even a dog in a car it might be possible for it to push the lever into say D. although nowadays most cars have a button you need to push too. But W's Pluriel, all you need to do is push the lever forward or back. Then put a foot on the accelerator.;)
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Wow eye din't know cars still allowed that in the uk. Eye fort they all needed the brake applied to get them oot of park. Driven a lot of hire car auto's. Always been the case.
 
landowner said:
Insurance is covered, swivel seat base declared etc etc
I think the weak point in the standard seat fixing would be where the runners bolt to the seat box, it's a lip around the top and can be bent with a pair of pliers. My hinges are bolted to the upright sides vertically so much stronger.

If the van were to crash with enough force to break those big hinges I think the passenger would be a gonner anyway, after working with Land Rovers I usually over engineer things so it's safe as houses :)
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When yer ses over engineer fings on land rovers... does yer mean yer double the fick ness to allow for rust worm reduction?
 
Stanleysteamer said:
Once heard a story about someone who had one of those, drove into a garage or summat too close to the wall and coudln't get out cos, as you say, no reverse!!!
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Don't laugh it happened to me and my mate in Cambridge found a parking place which was tight to close to the car in front couldn't open the door to get out until some lads come along and pushed us back
 
landowner said:
Mornin,
Bright white and cold here
I think I've been trolled, is that what you call it ?
I thought that I would put my camper hinged seat idea on transit camper site ... bad idea !!!

I have been informed that my stupidity in doing this will probably kill both me and my passenger
Seat hinges not crash tested, seat will rip from base in an accident, base will rip from floor
Asked what is the point if it has to be bolted down on one side
Informed that having batteries under seat will cause hydrogen gas to build up and cause an explosion,
Informed that batteries must be fastened down and terminals protected or else (job not finished)
Told that my insurance will now be invalid
I've been laughed at and called names even by a camper builder company
Mostly very negative comments speculating doom and gloom
Couple of good folk saying it's a good idea but beginning to wonder if it's worth sharing in future

Is it me ?? :D
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Wouldn't worry about it look on U tube enough electrical cars going up in smoke on their own
 
marjon said:
You sure?

The p38 has a button on the lever to lift before you can move it always got me foot on the brake anyway have been told thats not part of the interlock. the L322 I cant turn me knob till I put my foot on the brake.

Its such an automatic thing you don't know your actually doing it.

J
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My USA Ford ranger was like that couldn't select drive without foot on break and button pressed
 
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