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NavyReg1970

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Don't laugh but...
I went to start my td4 auto freelander yesterday, as I turned the ignition key a wasp stung me on the neck, my reflex actions included moving the auto gearstick rapidly backwards and forwards - at the same time I turned the key engaging the starter motor, immediately turning the key off, then back on again.
Obviously the perfect storm of things not to do when starting the engine as now it won't start - just get a click - then I get an F4 fault displayed and the oil warning lamp gives a morse code message - oh and just for good measure the HDC warning comes up. I can't find my ODB reader but I am guessing the gearbox now doesn't know where it is at and as such won't allow a start.
Are there any of those fabled peddle press combinations that may sort this out before I go and buy another odb reader - and is there a good chance that an odb reader might reset this?
 
Wow - now this is what I call an original question - I don't think you'll get many replies saying 'This is what to do when you ......'

However, I would be tempted to try what our workshop technician advises for most electrical faults on computers and other things that are full of electrickery.

Freelanders are full of electrickery - especially the auto-box.

Switch everything off - disconnect the battery (make sure you know any radio codes that may be needed) - wait 10 minutes or so - and then reconnect and see what you get.

Fingers crossed - good luck.

Edit - Forgot to say you'll need to re-calibrate the rear window as it will go fully down when you re-connect the battery - but that's easy - just fully up, then fully down, then fully up.
 
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When you switch on the electrics only does the dash tell you the auto lever is in P?
If you move the lever back 1 does it show N?
Back 1 more to show D?
Shift to the right to display sport mode then forwards x2 to show 2?
If you put yer hand on the plastic by the auto lever and turn the key from off to position 1, then position 2, do you =feel a click by the auto lever?
 
I also see hippos point it could be you have damaged the switch that tells where the gear leaver is supposed to be . try giving the starter a gentle tap with a hammer I SAID GENTLE. it may release it if that is the problem
 
Have you checked the ecu fuses? No: 2 iirc for the TD4 and relay 4 both in the engine bay fuse box.
 
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followed the thread mentioned earlier to remove the starter motor - unfortunately there seems to be far more "innards" to my HSE engine bay - possibly relating to air-con but not really sure. there is what looks like a small aluminium heat exchanger blocking the way out at the non drive end of the starter
The upshot is, I can partially remove the starter motor so I can see the metal drive cog, but cannot fully withdraw it.
With the starter motor withdrawn as much as I can, all faults on the dashboard dissapear and the auto box selector seems to function correctly - displaying the right stick positions including sport mode.
with the starter motor still disconnected it just clicks when you go for a start and doesnt even attempt to spin. Getting my finger on the starter cog, it doesnt seem particularly free to turn so Im guessing its goosed.
reconnecting the starter motor brings back the fault indications, disconnecting clears them again
bearing in mind all the bloody pipes and cables in the way, are there any other suggestions as to how best remove the starter motor - at the moment it looks like I am having to take the front off the car (i dont have a pit or a lift or ramps so going from underneath would be tricky)
oh and by the way - there is a bolt right near where the hidden one is that is off something else - I will have to try and get that back in at some point
 
NavyReg1970 said:
followed the thread mentioned earlier to remove the starter motor - unfortunately there seems to be far more "innards" to my HSE engine bay - possibly relating to air-con but not really sure. there is what looks like a small aluminium heat exchanger blocking the way out at the non drive end of the starter
The upshot is, I can partially remove the starter motor so I can see the metal drive cog, but cannot fully withdraw it.
With the starter motor withdrawn as much as I can, all faults on the dashboard dissapear and the auto box selector seems to function correctly - displaying the right stick positions including sport mode.
with the starter motor still disconnected it just clicks when you go for a start and doesnt even attempt to spin. Getting my finger on the starter cog, it doesnt seem particularly free to turn so Im guessing its goosed.
reconnecting the starter motor brings back the fault indications, disconnecting clears them again
bearing in mind all the bloody pipes and cables in the way, are there any other suggestions as to how best remove the starter motor - at the moment it looks like I am having to take the front off the car (i dont have a pit or a lift or ramps so going from underneath would be tricky)
oh and by the way - there is a bolt right near where the hidden one is that is off something else - I will have to try and get that back in at some point
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when unbolting the starter from the box you are breaking the earth to the starter so if no warnings with it unbolted then i would think some sort of short in the starter causing controll modules to generate faults.:)
 
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the bolt you have taken out accidently is to your gear box and needs to be put back and I think you would have more trouble from below as your got something extra on that we have not
 
months have passed, changed the starter motor yesterday, problem still there, bugger. Could it be something at the gearstick end?
 
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