Ter-wat said:
I have to pop back on you little bunch of keyboard worriors :) Admit it. Yer couldn't resist. :D

Thanks for all the feedback you have given me a good laugh shame my landy still isnt going to well. Another put down, as if we don't know how to fix his motor. More would have been interested if it were not for the original comment referring us to being less than helpful. Once the thread got going there seems to be a 2 way conversation, which ma be why peeps didn't respond themselves.

Fair play I can see you guys strength in numbers and all that, but remember about the thick skin, you have to take is as well as giving it. There's always arguements on ere. Often the noobs feel they've been ganged up on. That only happens when they fight a silly corner. Or do daft thing like ripped off and highlander td4. Then the dummy spitting starts un it all goes lz. :eek:

Keep up the good work boys :D Either start a new fred spedific to yer engine problems, or give it to a garage. Yer need error codes check. If that dun't help then a local hawkeye owner may be about. But they may not want to get involved.
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Un yer money should be put behind the bar. Start a tab orf for ratty. At the chip bar.
 
Yeah ya right I did have to have another peep just to see whats going on.

Im taking it to a landrover specialist next week, they charge £35 for the test book diagnostic so hopefully come back with a solution.

When you hold it at around 3000revs its lumpy + white smoke, sounds like a pot off, I'm going to remove the injector plugs one by one today and try to find the offending injector and change it again.

Im not sure if that can stop the turbo from spooling up like it uses to but hey ho, Ill sort it.
 
White smoke....possibly over fueling, check that last injector n make sure the contacts on the fuel rail pressure sensor are clean.
Theres also a known fault with the fuel rail pressure sensor harness which can be rectified with............a new harness.
Glad to see ye got out of the right side of bed today!:D
 
mjrimmer said:
White smoke....possibly over fueling, check that last injector n make sure the contacts on the fuel rail pressure sensor are clean.
Theres also a known fault with the fuel rail pressure sensor harness which can be rectified with............a new harness.
Glad to see ye got out of the right side of bed today!:D
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Thanks for the reply, The sensor on the end of the fuel rail is new and the plug looks sound, The I have had 2 new/cheap MAFs off ebay which was causing problems, so i thought, I sent them back and just put in a new Lucas MAF, But it still runs better with the MAF disconnected.

This morning I have just got some Millers, Eco Max, I know it will take a while but it may make a diference.

Im guessing the Testbook will tell me if the harness needs replacing ?

Again thanks for your help.
 
Just took her for a run before I start tinkering again, with the new Lucas MAF, horrible, wont rev, loads of white smoke, MAF disconected runs 90% better, I cant work it out.
 
T4 will tell them everything. Hopefully they should be able to understand from the figures whats going on. If it is an injector, then they'll be able to compare results to the others whilst it's running. They do run betterer I think wiv the maf disconnected, or blanked orf, or somthing like that. There's a maf thread at the top of the freelander forum all about it. I would hope fault codes are simular to abs sensor codes, which one, open, short, or intermittent etc.
 
Well she goes in tomorrow, Still running without the MAF, cant hear the turbo spooling up when its suppose to and poor starting when warm, even a couple of minutes after stopping.

I have changed all the vacuum pipes, the vacuum actuator (boost controler), changed 3 injectors, new Lucas MAF, rear arch fuel filter, its had a full service, air and sump breather filter.

I have here ready to fit a new MAP sensor and a new cam sensor on route.

SO whats your money on ?

Im starting to think HP fuel pump !

I should get it back on Saturday
 
Ter said:
Hi guys, Im new to your forum and sorry to dive in like this but im starting to lose it :)

I bought this TD4 knowing she had a few problems but by god its testing me.

It’s a 53 plate 112K miles

1st, Grumbling rear wheel bearing,

2nd, Poor starting when warm.

3rd, Losing power up hill.

4th The 3 amigos on.

5th The brake warning light comes on, the one in the rev counter at about 10 mph


So, I have sorted the rear wheel bearing,

Poor starting, I have done the spill back test and found 2 offending injectors which I have changed,
I have changed the rear fuel filter in the back arch, when letting the filter fill up the pumps had good flow and pressure.
It starts first knock in the mornings but takes a short while when warm, I have found out how to get the glow plugs working manually and if it put them on when the engine is warm it starts much better, could it be cam sensor ?

Loss of power, now this has just happened, it started not long after the injectors were changed, before you could really hear the turbo spooling up, now you can hardly hear it and when you hit a hill, guessing demanding full boost it backs off for about 15 seconds then starts to pull again. I have changed the MAF (New £35 off ebay :doh:), all the small vacuum pipes going to the turbo, the small breather filter, the EGR valve also has been removed and the air pipe blanked off. I have had all the intercooler pipes off and inspected them.
Everything seems tight as it should be apart from the turbo air intake that comes down from the MAF, the pipe can be pulled off the turbo fairly easily but because it’s negative pressure I was thinking it would get pulled tight on the turbo when running.
The car has had a full service, oils, filters (inc the oil breather filter)
Any Ideas??

The 3 Amigos, I hear the last owner changed the front wheel bearing and could have put it in the wrong way, I’m thinking this is why the warning light comes on around 10 mph. So I’m not to worried about this for now, I have new discs to fit to it so ill do the bearing when I change the discs.

As you can see I was thinking quick fixes then away but it’s not turning out that way, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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you can not get the wheel bearing wrong way round they are the same back to front but if it has not been put on right then there could be problem and if that has been done it could have messed up the abs sensor hope this helps
 
Thanks for your input, I think the magnetic side of the bearing is pointing towards the engine and not the wheel, Ill check it out when I get it running well.

Cheers
 
All banter aside - I wonder why you only changed 3 injectors and not the 4th? Also what about the Cam sensor? I had mine unplugged once by mistake and it was flat and smokey.

I found Pierburg Maf and Synergy2 a great improvement.

I am not sure but I read somewhere on a post that unplugging injectors while running can damage the ECU - someone on her will confirm I am sure - be patient though lots of the guys who know are busy and don't read every day - it's free advice so I suppose the payment is the wait.

Glad to see you didn't go away - stick in there.
 
angeloc said:
All banter aside - I wonder why you only changed 3 injectors and not the 4th? Also what about the Cam sensor? I had mine unplugged once by mistake and it was flat and smokey.

I found Pierburg Maf and Synergy2 a great improvement.

I am not sure but I read somewhere on a post that unplugging injectors while running can damage the ECU - someone on her will confirm I am sure - be patient though lots of the guys who know are busy and don't read every day - it's free advice so I suppose the payment is the wait.

Glad to see you didn't go away - stick in there.
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Thanks folr your reply,

I have got the TD4 back, They told me No1 injector had excessive spill back to I changed it, So now it does start much better, I have just fitted a new cam sensor but it hasnt made any difference.

I have now had 3 Mafs in it, 2 cheap ebay ones and Lucas one, the problem is now it still runs much better with the MAF unplugged, with it pulgged in it has no power at all until 2500 and even then if feels restricted.

Again the turbo isnt spooling up like it should but its running much better.

Now the injector is changed ill get it back in to AMR for them to check out.

Any ideas to why 3 Mafs are causing problems ?

Would Roverron's tuning box help solve the problem ?
 
AMR landrover had the Landy for a week, they binned the Lucas MAF and fitted a Bosch, starting is much better but not perfect.

The turbo isnt still spinning up like it should, its a fairly quite whistle,it used to be much better.

It will do until after the winter, Ill end up with a Disco eventually.
 
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