I've had chains on the front only on a FWD car, fine on the flat and uphill, but very scary going downhill around hairpin bends with the rear end trying to overtake the front.
4 chains give much more control, steering and braking as well as drive on a RWD car. No problems with terminal oversteer in a FWD car.
 
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:D:D:Dsnigger:D:D:D

The winter before last I went out to a mercedes with just one snow chain fitted on the rear.....:doh::doh::doh:



Needless to say, I was sent out to pull it to a safe location.
 
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Hills in Carmarthenshire??? Only joking, I live in the same area. Last winter I only had two problems with the weather:
  1. We had to cancel a trip to Scotland (because of illnesses) which I was quite looking forward to playing in the snow and after having spent a mad 48h replacing the water pump gaskets on the 110.
  2. Washer jets freezing up (drove home from London with a friend and had to stop at every service station on the M4 to wash the windscreen, usually I don't stop).
Try coming here on the eastern borders of the county!:) Last year our temperature dropped to minus 19 degrees although this year was only down to minus 17 degrees. I would have been overjoyed if it was only my washer bottle that froze!! I lost my suspension air compressor - frozen solid for days - and that was not cheap to have replaceded. I will search out and post a couple of photos of our very deep snow for you just to let you appreciate what it was like just a couple of miles away away from the A40 earlier this year.
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Try coming here on the eastern borders of the county!:) Last year our temperature dropped to minus 19 degrees although this year was only down to minus 17 degrees. I would have been overjoyed if it was only my washer bottle that froze!! I lost my suspension air compressor - frozen solid for days - and that was not cheap to have replaceded. I will search out and post a couple of photos of our very deep snow for you just to let you appreciate what it was like just a couple of miles away from Llandovery away from the A40 earlier this year.
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Well Disco what can I say :). I may not live near Llandovery but our place hit minus 17. Even though we didn't end up going to Scotland I did over the course of the winter travel the entire width of the country. Although not this winter but last a few of us went laning through the Strata Florida and surrounding area during the worst of the snow.

In the 3000 miles I covered from December through to the end of January I would have said that the worst area to drive was in fact Surrey. Most of the roads down here didn't get that much traffic (or were gritted) whereas those around Surrey were sheet ice rather than snow. I had a near miss near Bisley Camp where I'd seen a set of headlights glance off a window around a corner so stopped just off the edge to let the car around the corner (just didn't trust other people's driving). The car in question was a Mercedes M class and came around the corner at about 30mph sideways on sheet ice. Thankfully a quick right foot and I hoofed it in the 110 and the tail of the Mercedes missed the back corner of the 110 by inches.
 
I'm not trying to enter a competition for the country's worst weather/driving conditions merely saying that I have found ours a bit too challenging for me and my summer tyres, hence my asking for any recommendations.
I don't feel too wimpish though, as around here the road tankers were unable to deliver heating oil for a period of time and the milk tankers had to bow out, too!
I found that with the deep snow, driven on by tractors/farm vehicles and then then compacted by the constant freezing temperatures and bright daytime sunshine turning it into glace ice, made me feel the need to look for more tyre grip for the coming year.
My experience of off-roading is NIL but steep hills and sharp bends on tarmaced public roads are just a little different from those encountered when off-roading, especially when one encounters idiots who fancy their driving ability in inappropriate vehicles and end up causing blockages at the most awkward points! I for one, do not fancy ending up over the edge!! I'm a bit too long in the tooth for that and value my remaining few years.
Next year I will give you a call ask you to come and deliver my shopping.:D
 
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derwendolly said:
I'm not trying to enter a competition for the country's worst weather/driving conditions merely saying that I have found ours a bit too challenging for me and my summer tyres, hence my asking for any recommendations.
I don't feel too wimpish though, as around here the road tankers were unable to deliver heating oil for a period of time and the milk tankers had to bow out, too!
I found that with the deep snow, driven on by tractors/farm vehicles and then then compacted by the constant freezing temperatures and bright daytime sunshine turning it into glace ice, made me feel the need to look for more tyre grip for the coming year.
My experience of off-roading is NILL but steep hills and sharp bends on tarmaced public roads are just a little different from those encountered when off-roading, especially when one encounters idiots who fancy their driving ability in inappropriate vehicles and end up causing blockages at the most awkward points! I for one, do not fancy ending up over the edge!! I'm a bit too long in the tooth for that and value my remaining few years.
Next year I will give you a call ask you to come and deliver my shopping.:D
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You'll have to join the queue I'm afraid. Had to run our neighbour down to the local town to pick up her goose for Christmas, never again I've had nervous passengers but she took it to a whole new level.

Had a similar request when on Winter Tour in North Wales and was outside de-icing the 90 when a little old lady in the hamlet we were staying in came across. She asked if I'd mind awfully getting some milk and sausages on the way back.

In all seriousness if you're after a superb all-round tyre then you won't go far wrong with BFG A/Ts since they'll handle all situations and by the sounds of things you won't need anything ridiculous. I've got two sets of tyres for the Series, one stupidly aggressive mud pattern and another set for road use. I can't be bothered to change them (from the mud) even when the sun shines. It's the last thing you want to do when it's 2ft snow outside to change the tyres.

Can't say much for a Disco since we do have one (a Series I) (that will be breaking at some point) but some little prep before the winter sets in goes a long way. I know I changed over the oil for some 5w40 or something similar and never had issues starting the 110, similarly after experience with the 90 I made sure that the insides of the locks were clean and well greased with stuff that didn't mind the cold. Similarly put some fairly heavy concentrated anti-freeze in and after my experience ran the 110 with 100% screen-wash. Unfortunately I don't know whether the lack of freezing up was due to the screen-wash or the slightly milder temperatures once I'd done it.
 
Last winter I put a set of Nokian WRG2 tyres on my daughters Fiat 500. The grip on an iced over carpark was very good. The only thing stopping me putting a set on my P38 is the cost.
 
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