Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Tøxïc§øX™;1076627 said:
Aah but what was she towing it with & was it a braked caravan.
the rules are very simple.
& I have posted the link to vosa & DoT before. but for clarity here it is below.
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
For example:
- a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
Whereas
- the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
]Most caravans when fully loaded will be over 750 kg. This limit can be exceeded without taking a B+E test under some circumstances: The gross laden weight / MAM of a trailer can be upto the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, up to a maximum of 3500 kg in total for the combination. e.g. Land Rover Defender 90 has an unladen weight of 1740kg and therefore you might think you would be able to tow a trailer with a MAM of 1740kg, but beware that the load capacity of the Land Rover, over 20kg, would put you over the 3500kg MAM for the combination! So as the MAM of the Land Rover is 2400kg you can only tow a trailer with a MAM of 1100kg (If your trailer has a MAM above 1100kg but only weighs 1100kg because it is not fully loaded it would still require a B+E licence). If you had a Land Rover Freelander weighing 1640kg unladen, with a 2060kg MAM then your trailer could have up to a 1440kg MAM and would not exceed the 3500kg MAM for the combination and therefore only a category B licience is required (If your trailer has a MAM above 1440kg but only weighs 1440kg because it is not fully loaded it would still require a B+E licence). e.g. If you have a trailer with a 1400kg MAM you could tow it with a Land Rover Freelander (1640kg unladen / 2060kg MAM) without B+E, but the same trailer would need B+E to be towed by a Seat Ibiza, and the actual load towed would be less as the Seat Ibiza towing capacity is only 1200kg. If your trailer is below 750 kg MAM it can be towed by a vehicle up to 3500 kg making a total train weight of 4250 kg.*
All trailers over 750kg MAM (Maximum Authorised Mass) should display a manufacturers plate with the MAM of the trailer - Remember this is the weight that counts, for driving licence regulations, regardless of the actual weight being less.
]If your trailer has not got a manufacturers plate showing the MAM you should not exceed 750kg in total (trailer + load).
I appear to have miscalculated the max weigh as it's 1100kg for a 90.
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I think the previous poster was saying that his wife just went straight ahead and did the test
Prices are here
Driving test fees : Directgov - Motoring
The courses you're talking about are the training courses offered. I'm looking to do this course in elgin. It's about £200 for a days tuition in your own vehicle, towing their trailer. Idea is to make sure you can manouvre the trailer, but mainly to get you out of bad habits.
Headtester
Active Member
The B+E car and trailer test currently costs £115 (the same as a LGV/PCV test), if you are going to use your own vehicle and trailer (which is perfectly acceptable) make sure it meets the minimum test vehicle (MTV) requirements - here. Too many people lose their test fee because the vehicle + trailer dont meet the requirements. If you are in any doubt then ask.
90truckcab
Well-Known Member
ere fellas, yer can tow an arrows no prob behind a landrover 
ther better behind a tractor tho
ther better behind a tractor tho
jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
ere fellas, yer can tow an arrows no prob behind a landrover
Lol do ya want one! LOL seems a shame to cut the fecker up. Wouldn't mind but it dont fit down the side of me house and im sure me dad don't want it in his garden much longer may just have to cut the axle off and sell it on mabe keep the frame for a feckin strong overlander dunno too many ideas no spare time.
Although I thought anything over 2.3m needed 7.5t must have got me numbers mixed up.
Your'e not wrong - just slightly out of date, the law changed on 20/04/10 to allow all vehicles exept bikes to tow trailers up to 2.55m wide. (up from 2.3m)
This had to be done to bring us in line with EU reulations, or the UK would have been fined.
I only know about it because I bought a 2.4m wide caravan late last year, I was a bit cross when I found I couldn't tow it with a Landrover but now I can so it's OK.
This had to be done to bring us in line with EU reulations, or the UK would have been fined.
I only know about it because I bought a 2.4m wide caravan late last year, I was a bit cross when I found I couldn't tow it with a Landrover but now I can so it's OK.
jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
Ow that puts a different slant on the traileer thing mabe I can keep it if I can fit it down my drive. cheers
Now I know that I've had a bad day !
I've tried to read this thread twice now , esp this post and am more confused than when I started - this has turned me to drink and I've given up trying to figure out what the hell it means and how much I could actually tow.
Wouldn't mind but it's not like I have any intention of towing anything- ever- why am I doing this to myself, all in the name of knowledge - my brain hurts
