Disc300Series
Active Member
Is anyone using veg oil in a TD5 ?
wiltshire landyman
I’m back
try a search mate
fozziediscovery
Member
Do you need to inform HMRC regarding using veg oil in your Landy?
I know you can make 2500 litres etc. But technically you aren't making your own, are you?
Fozziediscovery.
I know you can make 2500 litres etc. But technically you aren't making your own, are you?
Fozziediscovery.
ok once again for the people that can't find the search function.
you can use/make 2500L of bio fuel (veg oil/biodiesel) in the last 12 months and pay no duty if you are the producer.
you need to keep simple records, date and qty you put the fuel in your tank, nothing else is needed.
do a google search for HMRC 179E and read it, if you can't manage a google search try this link
LINK
buying veg oil and putting it in your car is classed as production, as is buying bio heating oil and using that in your car, carful with this one as the supplier will keep records for hmrc so you can be checked up on.
use over 2500L and you pay duty on ALL of it.
you have to total the last 12 months at the end of each month, its a rolling 12 months.
from what i have seen most bio heating oil is crap, it can be tested but you will probably need to find a guy localy that makes his own bio so he can test it for you.
see my sig for a forum with all the answers, but please search it before asking questions because they have all been asked before many times and it just makes you look a prat asking the same old things again.
you can use/make 2500L of bio fuel (veg oil/biodiesel) in the last 12 months and pay no duty if you are the producer.
you need to keep simple records, date and qty you put the fuel in your tank, nothing else is needed.
do a google search for HMRC 179E and read it, if you can't manage a google search try this link
LINK
buying veg oil and putting it in your car is classed as production, as is buying bio heating oil and using that in your car, carful with this one as the supplier will keep records for hmrc so you can be checked up on.
use over 2500L and you pay duty on ALL of it.
you have to total the last 12 months at the end of each month, its a rolling 12 months.
from what i have seen most bio heating oil is crap, it can be tested but you will probably need to find a guy localy that makes his own bio so he can test it for you.
see my sig for a forum with all the answers, but please search it before asking questions because they have all been asked before many times and it just makes you look a prat asking the same old things again.
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groenendael
Active Member
Factor in the cost of regular fuel filter changes, and are you really any better off financially.?
you only need a couple of extra ones when you start unless you put **** fuel in your tank.
cambridgecockney
Active Member
I thought these injectors were a bit sensitive. and with veg oil being 5 times thicker than diesel they will get damaged.even mixing 50/50 it will still be thicker. a 50/50 mix killed my nissan terrano diesel pump, £750 later all savings out the window.
they all have bosch pumps, veg won't kill a bosch, did a mechanic tell you veg had killed it?
cambridgecockney
Active Member
Took it to specialist, who showed me inside pump it had built up oily sludge like an uncleaned deep fat fryer.not all terrano are bosch mine was but majority are zexel.
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Ah a pump specialist even better, no wounder it cost £750, did they give you the old pump back?
so it was unfiltered chip fat you put in then or maybe water had got in the system
so it just needed cleaning out then?
according to biomotors.co.uk they were only made with a bosch pump and they list all variants as far as i know.
so it was unfiltered chip fat you put in then or maybe water had got in the system
so it just needed cleaning out then?
according to biomotors.co.uk they were only made with a bosch pump and they list all variants as far as i know.
cambridgecockney
Active Member
No it was new oil from makro.fuel tanks sweat thats why they have traps in filter.yes they gave me the old pump back. £750 was reasonable as they removed and refitted the pump.if you had seen the cack you wouldnt have attempted to clean it off it was baked on like in a well used roasting tin.zexel pumps were a copy of bosch.trust me i know cos the terrano i still have has the zexel pump.
but the pump did not fail, it just got clogged with crap.
I have stripped a bosch pump from my transit to replace some seals after the pump had done 200k miles, 43k on used veg oil and it was spotless inside, in fact the van is on 230k now and still running fine, now on a mix of bio & used veg oil.
nothing wrong with the pumps.
I have stripped a bosch pump from my transit to replace some seals after the pump had done 200k miles, 43k on used veg oil and it was spotless inside, in fact the van is on 230k now and still running fine, now on a mix of bio & used veg oil.
nothing wrong with the pumps.
cambridgecockney
Active Member
clogged up /failed means it didnt work.aint got time to fanny round with pumps. last thing i want is stuck at the side of the road.yes bosch pumps are strong good seals not affected by veg oil. Td5 injectors with there own pumps aint bosch they will die as will the fuel pump in tank burn out quicker with the thicker veg oil/diesel mix.
Nigel-S
soft and furry
bookers cash and carry. works out at just under £1 a litre
I used to have a Bookers card and they refused to sell oil to anyone they suspected of using it as fuel, not certain how they could enforce it? but in the end they restricted sales to 25 litres per customer per month unless you owned a chippy/fast food outlet. Personally I wouldn't put cooking oil into my TD5, I've spent a few grand to buy it and get it to how I want it. If I couldn't afford to put the correct fuel into it then I wouldn't of bought it in the first place
